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Law $1 million bond for rioters. Does this help, or make things worse?

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by nhbbear, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:20 AM.

  1. nhbbear Duty Belt

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    So, the rioters that were caught in Lancaster, PA, were charged with rioting, arson, and multiple other charges. When I first read that their bond was set at one mil, I laughed and thought “fuck em” but then it occurred to me that this may have just given these assholes’ supporters a reason to further protest and shift the issue. 1 million is an excessive bond, imo. Almost as ridiculous as giving them fucking recog as they due out west.

    It was pointed out that this was the same amount that was given to Derek Chauvin for “killing” Floyd, which is a bond that I thought was excessive. Kyle Rittenhouse was on no bond and then on 2 million bond.

    The purpose is bond is two fold. One to guarantee that the individual shows up for court. The more of a flight risk the person, the higher the bond. Second, to protect the community from the subject on bond. Chauvin and Rittenhouse have very limited means to disappear and even though their charges are murder, they are not career criminals and neither of their “crimes” were in malice at all. So to simply think they would reoffend is kind of ridiculous. Their bond was high for political and social outcry reasons. I see similar reasons for setting such a high bond for the rioters. Communities are pissed that these assholes are destroying stuff, not just in their communities, but most people are absolutely sick of seeing these turds run amok. So does a high bond deter future destruction, or does it piss people off and stir up the hive? Is it unconstitutional?

    Here is a list of a few good and bad things for setting such a high bond.

    Good things:
    1. Protects the community from these assholes destroying stuff and lighting fires.
    2. Sends a message to would be rioters they they will not be out in a few hours on a 1 k bond.
    3. Shows that the matter is being taken seriously versus communities that have decided not to prosecute.
    4. Fuck these turds.

    Bad things:
    1. It’s likely a violation of their eighth amendment guarantee against excessive bond
    2. It gives the protesters something to rally behind with claims that it is a slap at fighting racial injustice.
    3. In relation to #2, this is likely to be seen as caring more for buildings than black life as witnessed by Chauvin’s bond.
    4. This will bring in celebs and groups like aclu to legitimize their crimes


    https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/lancaster-protesters-held-on-1-million-bail-after-alleged-riots/
     
  2. Hadron90 Black Belt

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    I don't think its excessive. Bond is meant to be ensure the people actually return for their court dates. With so many funds set up to post bond for people, its likely that tons of the people won't bother showing up for court.
     
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    Maybe cities will stop burning down if they keep the people responsible locked up. This can only be a good thing because those scumbags do nothing positive for society.
     
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    Bonds happen all the god damn time and of course ppl are against with what they did but at the end of the day are they guilty or not guilty but it is the justice system job to work it out
     
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    Kyles bond was entirely political.
    These people are terrorists who've gone out of their way to create violence and to attack a police station. A high bond, or in fact no bond should be given
     
  6. Rational Poster War Room Messiah

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    Zero cities have burnt down.
     
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    We've seen how well doing nothing to rioters has worked, I'm willing to give this a go.
     
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    James Bond is a series of books and movies about the career of a British secret service agent code named 007. He is known for his spy skills, lady skills and alcoholism. Ordering a martini "shaken not stirred" is also known as a Bond cocktail and known by bars across the globe. Bind is also known for the particular service firearm he favors and driving an Aston Martin.
     
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    I am of the opinion that to keep the community safe from people likely to reoffend, bond should be high. 1 million high? No, not really. 500k would do and wouldn’t be so high as to attract the civil rights groups from the left.
     
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    Freedom isn't free hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Lock em up!
    *raises arm straight*
    Kyle is my hero!!!!!
     
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    Man you've really become insane as of late. Dude take a break
     
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    Bond is a stupid concept. Either there is no reason to lock someone up (e.g. no flight risk, no risk of tampering with witnesses or evidence, no risk of continued crime). Then they should be free until the trial.

    Or there is a reason to lock them up, then why allow them out for depositing money?
     
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    One million seems a bit excessive but arson should not be taken lightly.
     
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    Yeah my comment really stands out from the crowd here doesn't it?

     
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    Well that way kamala and bidens campaign managers can’t bail them out as easily
     
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  17. PalmaSoriano Green Belt

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    Looks like Mogadishu
     
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    uhhh, that's only like one block! and they were all insured!!! ~ Typical leftist argument
     
  19. Rational Poster War Room Messiah

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    Even your pictures you can still see the city in the background.
     
  20. jx820 Red Belt

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    You see all those buildings standing essentailly fully intact in the backgound? That's a city that isn't burned down.

    These are photos of a series of arsons. Not a city burned down.

    Both are bad, they aren't the same.
     

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