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Would you approve of Trump using emergency powers to build his wall?

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  1. I'm a Trump supporter and I would support using emergency powers

    25.9%
  2. I'm a Trump supporter and I would not support use of emergency powers

    5.2%
  3. I'm not really a Trump supporter, but I would support him using emergency powers

    5.2%
  4. I'm not a Trump supporter. I don't support him using emergency powers to build a wall.

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  1. Lord Commander Palis

    Lord Commander Palis Superior Genetics Double Yellow Card

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    With news of yet another illegal (criminal) committing a heinous crime against American innocents it's time we actually get some discussion here my fellow War Roomers on how to setup this wall in detail.

    How realistic is this wall going to be? Well, we certainly don't want to fail like the Chinese did without keeping the Mongols out.

    Will it be anywhere this size?: [​IMG]

    No, however, it will need to be something tall enough to prevent scaling, with some type of deterrent at the top that isn't just regular barb wire people can throw their jackets over and climb over. Now, let's say you make the wall very tall, you then ask yourself, well, who the fuck cares if they climb it? Good luck with the fall. So there is that very simple point--and while on the subject people will attempt this despite going against the laws of gravity. Ok maybe there are some legit wall/rock climbers with scaling gear who could do it, but it's rare and possibly moot if you keep reading.

    So lets say the wall is super connected with concrete barriers, extremely tall, what's next? Technology. Sensors, cameras, lights. B-b-but Palis what if they shoot the cameras, blow a hole through the wall and destroy the lights? Well then, let's go to the RoE section of the Wall that involves destruction of United States government property and possible illegal breach of the wall.

    1. You shoot at the wall, you damage the wall, you are then subject to lawful termination, it does not matter if you are on Mexico's side. What is Mexico going to do? Get Panama, Guatemala and Argentina and come kick our asses? Enough pussy shit.
    2. The wall is not an entry point, the giant barrier will have been built some yards back to prevent loitering, thus standing in proximity of the wall is a violation. You will then be warned a fair amount of times and then shot at with non-lethal force should you not comply. It will not be fun.
    3. The entry point are the U.S. checkpoints, the wall is not, like stated in #2. More manpower at the checkpoints is needed for more frequent background checks. Possible opening up of another checkpoint at the California/Mexico border to alleviate the stress of more thorough checks of people under suspicion of being illegals. In the case of a detention the law must be respected however, such as in the Supreme Court ruling of Martinez to keep interrogations brief thus only keeping the person to conduct a "minimal" at best investigation. Fair enough, so let's get people in the system to make the process brief and show a status report of the individual.
    4. More agents. Drones. More jobs.
    More has to be done than just a wall though folks. Allowing illegals to work and not do anything about it is huge. Allowing them to use social programs, buy houses etc is what is really making it hard. It's an enabling system by the left. I'm not saying everyone on the left doesn't give a shit, but the outright laughable exposure of certain candidates pretty much using certain groups for votes with "promises" is the real joke.

    Thoughts from others would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. bmasters1993

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    They need to build the wall about 500m back from the actual border, but still clearly mark the border and signpost the chosen ROE, so that any violations against the wall that require immediate action can be executed on what is legally American soil
     
  3. Pwent

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    i want gargoyles that come to life and swoop in on any possible climbers

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    but yeah good points mentioned where they should build the wall a bit back so people cant just loiter near it until we let our guard down, even getting close is a crime
     
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    VivaRevolution Whoopin' Belt Platinum Member

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    If people are serious about building a wall, it should be chain link fence, with 50 yards of live mined area, met by another chain link fence on the other side. It should be marked in every language known to man, and with pictures indicating it is a live mined area.

    The critics of fences are right, 10 foot fences are a great business opportunity for 11 foot ladders. You can not climb over a live mined area, and you can't tunnel under it.

    I do not support this for a very simple reason that some might find strange. Fences are two way roads, they keep people out, but they can also keep people in.

    This may seem fine and dandy now, but time is a funny thing, in that the world changes with it's passage, and what sounds strange today, may not sound so strange 50-100 years from now.

    1984 was written as a piece of fiction if I remember correctly, and it seems like anything but fiction today.
     
  5. Lord Commander Palis

    Lord Commander Palis Superior Genetics Double Yellow Card

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    Leonardo's flying devices/machines were deemed as fiction at one point also, but look what evolved?

    People don't need to die. People just need to follow it's rules. Mexico needs to put more effort into their own people as well.
     
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    E-verify with teeth. Take away the jobs so that our boarders aren't being flooded during times of economic growth, and our current boarder security measures would work just fine.
     
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    When all is said and done it will likely end up being a fence or something pretty benign. The terrain sucks for building anything that is extremely useful. There are environmental (two major rivers) issues and eminent domain issues as there are places where building anything useful would require encroaching on private property or downright blocking people in.

    To your last point. Yes the best way to fight illegal immigration is to go after the business owners as that is what creates the incentive. But good luck doing that when your labor secretary's bread and butter was illegal immigration.
     
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    If US citizens would stop buying illegal drugs, and employing illegal aliens this nonsense wouldn't even be considered by the idiots considering it now.
     
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    I don't know what Trump is going to do, he could be a disaster, he could be good, but we all need to understand that Trump appointing X, Y, Z does not mean the same thing as when others in the past have done it.

    Trump is beholden to no one for his election. He didn't win because certain people supported him, he won despite the opposition of almost everyone with institutional power.

    When a normal politician appoints an industry head that supported them, that is a quid pro quo deal. Their support in exchange for favors, such as industry heads being put into regulatory agency head positions.

    There is nothing that people can offer Trump in this arena. Trump basically got elected on his own. He didn't need the money people gave him, the media was giving him all the exposure he needed. He didn't need the RNC machine, although he did make a deal to use it in the general election in exchange for the obvious influence the RNC currently has. What is key to this RNC support, is that Trump can renege on this deal at any point, because the RNC has no leverage over Trump. He won their nomination despite everything they did to oppose it. Once he has the nomination, they are forced to support him ,or go to war with the rank and file of their own party who voted for him.

    See there seems to be this idea that Trump is beholden to these people and they have some leverage over him. This just isn't true. There is no reason to believe that Trump is going to be taking his marching orders from his advisors.

    If Trump ends up being a horrible president, it won't be because these people were telling him what to do, and he has no other good choices. Win or lose, the buck stops with Trump, but this also means that people shouldn't draw too many conclusions from who he is appointing to what position.
     
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    jesus fucking christ.
    more like Wall of Text in this bitch.
     
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  13. Lord Commander Palis

    Lord Commander Palis Superior Genetics Double Yellow Card

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    Ty my friend
     
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    Walls don't fucking work.
     
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    The pictures of injuries I could post on here from people falling off the fence.

    Ever seen a "de-gloving"?
     
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    You've shown me some pretty cringe inducing stuff
     
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    Stop talking about my ab selfies in here you fuck.
     
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    I was talking about your ears, bud. Wasn't even gonna go in on the waistline.
     
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    you dont rule the wall, the wall rules you.....

    #WALL
     
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