“This Is America”

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  1. Leagon

    Leagon Silver Belt

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    I just don't believe that you are unaware. I assume you've already reviewed the evidence and come to your own conclusion, no? So then what is the purpose of such a discussion?
     
  2. HereticBD

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    So...nothing, then? Your argument is "Y-y-you just don't know! You've already come to your conclusions, man!"

    Awesome. Predictable, but awesome nonetheless. Bravo.
     
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  3. Leagon

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    Sigh...

    Resumes with "black sounding" names are less likely to be receive a job offer than resumes with "white sounding" names.

    Let's start there.
     
  4. jamesmiller14

    jamesmiller14 Hoosier Daddy

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    The Uber left would tell you that you should still feel guilty because you wake up everyday with that milky white skin.

    You are privileged because barber shops know how to cut your hair and shit like that. It gets all kinds of Deep. Like... People got mad that this new age of entitlement is not as far-reaching as they may have hoped.
     
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  5. 76Knockout

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    But I get one haircut a year due to my depression/anxiety....is that also part of my white privilege?

    My father was killed by a drunk driver when I was 8 years old..that also a white privilege benefit?

    I think my membership must not be active yet because I haven’t had this easy cake life I supposedly should have had by now. I got shafted wtf

    My white mom was super privileged also, having to raise 2 kids alone working 3 jobs.
     
  6. HereticBD

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    Really? That's your fucking argument? "Names"? What were the qualifications associated with those "names", or does that not matter?

    Also, how were these studies conducted? Did they eliminate the "white sounding" black names, like "Stephen"? Does this alleged prejudice only apply to black people? Are the "Alexei's", "Bjorn's" and "Sven's" getting picked over the "Jamal's", and "Shaniqua's", or are these studies just cherry picking to fit their agenda?

    Please, enlighten me on these air tight studies.
     
  7. jamesmiller14

    jamesmiller14 Hoosier Daddy

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    Dig deeper into the resumes and you would find that certain universities pop off the page more than your corner Community College...

    That a single guy would be great for the job as opposed to a married woman, regardless of the color of their skin...

    Sometimes that job just isn't the job for you. Sometimes you wouldn't even want to see yourself working for a company that would base their recruitment off of petty criteria in the first place.

    And sometimes life just isn't fair.

    That example is not oppression. It's life. some black people have really black sounding names, some do not. I know that it's just one of several hundred examples that could be brought up, but no one has ever been guaranteed some kind of Utopia where life is fair. I know that the most Ardent liberals in America dream of this Utopia, so I don't want to go so far as to crush the idea of it, I'm just letting you know that the absence of Utopia does not mean that we find ourselves all under oppression.

    There is a part of me that wishes that well growing up that all of us had to spend at least one year or maybe two, maybe even longer than that, in the wilderness. Surviving. Eating from the land, drinking from the land, not certain of tomorrow, not certain of anything. As likely to be eaten as you are to eat... the real world, where words like Fair or not even apart of the imagination.

    (and don't take that last part as made completely dismissing any kind of actual oppression that does go on, be it racial or not. I'm just saying, God damn... this could all go away tomorrow. You can try to squash dog eat dog but dog will eat dog if the refrigerator is ever go out. Dog will eat dog.)

    Goodnight
     
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    jamesmiller14 Hoosier Daddy

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    it sounds like you were probably too busy grinding to get food to worry about your white privilege.

    And make no mistake about it, these kind of ideas never come out of someone who has been or who will be hungry. hungry people already know that life isn't fair, they're not foolish enough just start looking for where they can find or not find "privilege".

    I'm becoming too tired to make much sense. Good night
     
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  9. Leagon

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    Lol. See, this is my point. Why are we having this discussion? There's no possible evidence I can bring to the table. If I use anecdote, you'll say it's too subjective. If I use objective research, you'll say its not credible (which is fair, some research is poor). So if personal experiences aren't valid and any objective data that conflicts with what you already believe isn't valid, then what kind of evidence do you want me to provide that you will accept?

    http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873

    The fact that you're unaware of this rather well-known experiment but are also somehow already convinced that the experiment was riddled with flaws shows a pretty heavy bias on your part. Even if there's nothing I can say to convince you, can you at least admit that you probably have a bias against any information that could change your mind?
     
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  10. Cunningham

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    What are black sounding names? Until the early 90s black people had normal names. It's only very recently that they started calling their kids 'Sharkeesha' and white people with hippie parents who gave them retarded names like 'Moonchild' don't do well in the job search either.

    It's a product of a culture of ignorance, not racism. It's ignorant to give your kid a retarded name. It's not racist of other people to not want to hire them.
     
  11. Leagon

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    It was an experiment. The resumes were identical except for the names.

    Lol. How can you say "It's life" when it's not life for you? Again, you're engaging in ideological warfare in the comment section of Vice articles because you worry that the opinion of some random people on the internet is spreading more freely than you'd like, but the fact that employers are discriminating against people with your name is just life? Someone posting on an internet article needs to be combated because we can't just let those views go unchecked. Someone refusing to hire you--and thereby feed your family, live a healthy social life, secure your future, etc--is the sort of offense that can be easily overlooked?
     
  12. Cunningham

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    Sorry are you saying black Americans commit staggeringly higher rates of violent crime than other racial groups in America per capita because of racism? Most of them are killing other black people...
     
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    Racism in the past and today that results in poverty that in term results in crime although I'd argue that above any of these various "ism's" its wealth inequality that's the elephant in the room, one that a lot of establishment liberials won't touch because its potentially much more damaging to their paymasters.
     
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    No. You're just going to have to do better than "Black sounding names", being passed over for "White sounding names", because it's an absolutely ridiculous base to start from.
     
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  15. Cunningham

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    No one makes you murder someone. There's no excuse for it.
     
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    That's not an excuse its a reason and its the person who's potentially being killed(as you pointed out more likely to be black as well) who would obviously have the reason to be aggrieved about the role poverty played it it.
     
  17. Cunningham

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    So like when the Moors were running shit? And they enslaved everyone including white people?
     
  18. Cunningham

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    Killing each other in record numbers over dumb shit is nothing to do with poverty, other poor people don't slaughter each other. It's a problem specific to the black community.
     
  19. AgonyandIrony

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    I gotta be honest bro, the outlook you have on other people isn't accurate and feels stunted as fuck. You make so many generalizations on a consistent basis, you need to travel more or something.

    Dude obviously people know why they like it, it's probably the most dissected and talked about piece of art in a minute. As I said before, Donald Glover has been a surrealist artist in several facets and his attention to detail is great. He clearly put a ton of work into every tiny little aspect of it. Atlanta is "Twin Peaks With Rappers"

    Here's a good article from a Parkland student with some valid criticism of it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...america/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.96e01e3f451c

     
  20. moreorless87

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    Yes they absolutely do, crime rates and poverty are very clearly linked.
     

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