“Obama and I do not support gay marriage” - Biden

Trump didn’t though
And? He surrounds himself with people who think this way and puts them in positions of influence. So again, why should anyone who believes in rights for gay people vote for Trump. Especially since your link is from 2008 and we just cast ballots in 2020.
 
Trump's Bible teacher blamed homosexuals for covid, so who should they have voted for instead?

LOL. I love this argument from leftist nuts.

"I voted for the less racist, misogynist presidential candidate, that makes me superior".

Liberals have proved they don't mind sacrificing their beliefs and morals to get Trump out of office. You succeeded.
 
Wow someone changed their stance on something.

This is a ground breaking revelation.
 
Trump didn’t though

Trump stripped and opposed discrimination protections in housing, healthcare, and employment for LGBTQ persons. He also sought to ban transgender persons from serving in the military.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...rollback-lgbt-healthcare-protections/?gb=true
The Trump administration on Friday moved forward with a rule that rolls back healthcare protections for transgender people, even as the US Supreme Court barred sex discrimination against LGBT individuals on the job.

The rule from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) was published in the Federal Register, the official record of the executive branch, with an effective date of August 18. That will set off a barrage of lawsuits from gay rights and women’s groups. It also signals to religious and social conservatives in US President Donald Trump’s political base that the administration remains committed to their causes as the president pursues his reelection.

The Trump administration rule would overturn Obama-era sex discrimination protections for transgender people in healthcare.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily...ve-to-limit-lgbt-rights-as-courts-expand-them
The Trump administration’s ongoing push to limit LGBT rights in employment, health care, and education faces the threat of more litigation following a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that extended job protections based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

Several federal agencies, including Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education departments, have in recent years issued guidance and rulemaking that rolled back LGBT rights or bolstered religious liberties. Early indications show the high court’s June 15 decision could have broad reach on other statutes, attorneys and academics say.

And agencies likely will have to continue defending in court efforts that civil rights advocates say could lead to discrimination against the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community.

“Some of the law isn’t already established, but we expect to see a lot of cases challenging the rollback of gender identity protections,” said Christy Mallory, state policy & education initiatives director at the UCLA School of Law’s Williams Institute, which focuses on LGBT issues.

Just days after the decision, a lawsuit challenged a rule limiting transgender individuals’ access to health care. That came as the administration already was embroiled in litigation over a separate regulation that would have granted religious discrimination protections to doctors and other workers who object to performing or participating in a patient’s care, which can include gender-affirming surgeries.

The administration also is finalizing a regulation that would bolster religious defenses some government contractors can raise against workers’ LGBT discrimination claims. Agency guidance that conflicts with the high court’s ruling could play a role in lawsuits over transgender students using the bathroom or locker room of their choice and participating on sports teams.
https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community
Here’s a list of attacks the Trump-Pence administration has levied against LGBTQ people:

For the full list of Trump’s attacks on LGBTQ people, visit HRC.org/Trump.

  1. Opposition to the Equality Act: Despite support from almost every segment of the U.S. population and a majority of Republicans, President Trump opposed the Equality Act. In May, the House passed the Equality Act, voting to guarantee critical non-discrimination protections for LGBTQ people among other crucial rights.
  2. Appointed anti-LGBTQ judges: Trump has appointed anti-LGBTQ judges with alarming anti-LGBTQ records to appointments at every level of the judicial system, including anti-equality Supreme Court Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and federal nominees Kacsmaryk, Mateer, Bounds, Vitter. Menashi and others.
  3. Joked about Pence’s desire to hang LGBTQ people: In 2017, Trump joked about Vice President Pence’s anti-gay agenda saying “Don’t ask that guy—he wants to hang them all!”
In the Workplace

  1. Supported employment discrimination against LGBTQ people: The Trump administration submitted amicus briefs to the U.S. Supreme Court supporting discrimination against LGBTQ people.
  2. Banned transgender service members from the military: Against the expert advice of military leadership, medical authorities, budget analysts, 70% of Americans and the armed forces of allied countries, Trump and Pence banned transgender people from serving in the military.
  3. Rolled back Obama-era non-discrimination protections: Trump’s Department of Justice upended previous DOJ interpretations of the Civil Rights Act that protect transgender and non-binary workers from employment discrimination and ceased enforcing non-discrimination protections as well as taking a hostile stance to LGBTQ workers in court.
  4. Issued rule to license discrimination: Trump’s Department of Labor issued a regulation designed to allow federal contractors to claim a religious exemption to fire LGBTQ workers because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.
  5. Kicked people living with HIV out of the military because of their status: The Department of Defense instituted a “Deploy or Get Out” policy, which would remove military personnel living with HIV from service solely because of their status.
  6. Created a hostile work environment for LGBTQ federal employees: According to Politico: “[The Trump administration] fostered a climate where six staffers who are LGBT described removing their wedding rings before coming to work in the morning, taking down photos of their partners and families or ultimately finding new jobs further away from certain political appointees. They did not want to be identified; two said they feared being reassigned for being gay.”
In Health Care

  1. Undermine Section 1557 Rule: HHS published a proposed major change to the administrative rule interpreting Section 1557 of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) to remove explicit protections for LGBTQ people in healthcare programs and activities by excluding LGBTQ people from protections from discrimination based on sex stereotyping and gender identity.
  2. Advocated for the elimination of the entire Affordable Care Act: The Justice Department issued a legal filing arguing that the entirety of the Affordable Care Act should be overturned. This move would jeopardize health care for over 130 million people with preexisting conditions like HIV and eliminate non-discrimination protections for LGBTQ people.
  3. Created a Religious Discrimination Division: HHS created a new office whose sole purpose would be to defend physicians and other medical professionals who decide to refuse care, including to LGBTQ patients.
  4. Proposed cutting over $1.35 billion from PEPFAR budget: In his proposed FY 2019 budget, Trump cut $1.35 billion from, or 29% of PEPFAR’s budget. PEPFAR is the U.S. government program that fights AIDS abroad.
In Schools

  1. Guidance for Schools on Transgender Students: The Departments of Education and Justice eliminated Obama-era guidance clarifying that schools must treat transgender students consistent with their gender identity. This encourages schools officials to permit harassment of transgender students, deny access to facilities consistent with gender identity, and refuse to use correct names and pronouns -- all inflicting untold emotional harm.
  2. Rejected Complaints From Transgender Students: The Department of Education refused to respond to civil complaints filed by transgender students, including those who were barred from using bathrooms that correspond with their gender identity. This increases the burden for transgender students to combat these harmful policies.
  3. Suggested it is acceptable for schools to discriminate against LGBTQ students while accepting tax-payer funds: Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos has refused to rule out federal funding for schools that discriminate against LGBTQ students and has declined to state she would otherwise intervene should discrimination occur.
  4. Sexual Assault: DeVos rescinded Title IX rules related to schools’ obligations to address sexual harassment, including sexual violence. By eliminating the Obama-era rules, DeVos increased the standard of proof from “preponderance of the evidence” to “clear and convincing evidence” making it more difficult for survivors of sexual assault to obtain justice. LGBTQ people are disproportionately affected by sexual assault and harassment, and the stigma that many LGBTQ people face can make it more difficult for survivors to report.
  5. Eliminated language protecting LGBTQ children participating in the 4-H program: The Trump-Pence Administration ordered 4-H programs to remove a policy specifically welcoming LGBTQ children in the 4-H program, which led to the firing of an official who protested.
  6. Used Title IX to discriminate against trans students: the Department of Education claimed that school policies allowing trans youth to participate in sports consistent with their gender identity violated federal law and threatened to withhold funds.
In Housing

  1. Allowed emergency shelters to deny access to transgender and gender nonconforming people: Despite the fact that LGBTQ people are significantly more likely to experience homelessness in their lives, HUD Secretary Ben Carson has proposed a rule to permit emergency shelters to deny access or otherwise discriminate against transgender and gender nonconforming peoplewho are homeless. HUD also canceled a scheduled survey on LGBTQ homelessness.
  2. Placed transgender incarcerated persons in the wrong prison: The Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) rolled back an Obama-era policy that housed transgender prisoners consistent with their gender identity. With transgender people experiencing sexual assault at higher rates than average, this decision only puts them at further risk of assault.
In Families

  1. Allowed foster care programs to discriminate while accepting tax-payer funds: Trump-Pence White House has proposed a federal regulation that would strip away nondiscrimination requirements and permit all Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) grant recipients, notably adoption and foster care agencies, to discriminate against LGBTQ people, and in many circumstances religious minorities and women, and still receive federal funding.
  2. Refused visas to partners of diplomats: The State Department began refusing visas for same-sex partners of some diplomats and U.N. workers if they are not married.
  3. Changed rules to deny surrogate born children citizenship: The Trump Administration has interpreted immigration rules specifically so the child of a same-sex couple born abroad via surrogate would be considered "born out of wedlock" and making it more difficult to obtain U.S. citizenship.

In the World:

  1. Refusing LGBTQ asylum seekers fleeing violence: Trump issued an executive order to create further obstacles for all people seeking to enter the U.S., preventing refugees from escaping some of the most anti-LGBTQ regimes in the world.
  2. Embassy Pride Flags: Pence defended the State Department directive to ban U.S. embassies across the world from flying the LGBTQ Pride Flag during Pride Month.
  3. Left the U.N. Human Rights Council: Trump and Pence, over LGBTQ and other issues, removed the United States from the U.N. Human Rights Council.
  4. Chechnya: Trump and Pence refused to condemn attacks on LGBTQ people in Chechnya, where atrocities against queer people are horrific and ongoing.
  5. Brunei: The Trump-Pence administration has refused to condemn a Brunei law that imposes barbaric punishments on LGBTQ people, including death by stoning, torture and whipping.
https://time.com/5660956/trump-administration-anti-gay-brief-title-vii/
With an amicus brief filed on Friday, the Trump administration is asking the Supreme Court to essentially legalize anti-gay discrimination in the workplace. The brief, from Solicitor General Noel Francisco, argues federal prohibitions on employer discrimination do not extend to protect individuals from being fired or otherwise disenfranchised in the workplace because of their sexual orientation.

The Justice Department’s arguments pertain to the employment protections offered by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which are being argued in two Supreme Court cases involving gay workers in October. Title VII is a federal law that prohibits employment discrimination on the basis of sex, race, color, religion or national origin.

Can you point to any actual policies that Biden supported that sought to harm LGBTQ persons? No? All you have is a 12 year-old clip of Biden saying he doesn't support entitling gay persons to marriage?

Gotcha.
 
Trump stripped and opposed discrimination protections in housing, healthcare, and employment for LGBTQ persons. He also sought to ban transgender persons from serving in the military.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...rollback-lgbt-healthcare-protections/?gb=true
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily...ve-to-limit-lgbt-rights-as-courts-expand-them
https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community
https://time.com/5660956/trump-administration-anti-gay-brief-title-vii/

Can you point to any actual policies that Biden supported that sought to harm LGBTQ persons? No? All you have is a 12 year-old clip of Biden saying he doesn't support entitling gay persons to marriage?

Gotcha.
Biden only did what he did for votes. He doesn’t give a shit about gays and is obviously against it.
 
LOL. I love this argument from leftist nuts.

"I voted for the less racist, misogynist presidential candidate, that makes me superior".

Liberals have proved they don't mind sacrificing their beliefs and morals to get Trump out of office. You succeeded.
He also just nominated a supreme court justice who was a trustee at a school with anti-gay policies.

Your both-sides nonsense doesn't fly here. What recent anti-gay people has Biden endorsed? What anti-gay policies has he pushed for?
 
Republican hacks - "I like my parties politicians to never change their stance on things even if its the right thing to do... but I'll never hold them accountable for it when they inevitably do anyway and just point out when the left does it"
 
Biden only did what he did for votes. He doesn’t give a shit about gays and is obviously against it.

Okay, so one guy has supported lots and lots of legislation that protects gay persons from discrimination and seeks to grant them equal rights and protections, and another guy has repeatedly opposed such legislation and tried to affirmatively discriminate against them. And your argument is that they're the same because the first guy doesn't really give a shit but was just doing it for votes?

Yeah, you're pretty useless.
 
https://apnews.com/article/south-be...ota-virginia-a8bbabea9ee4d2fb13c6079c09f2f075
The policies that discriminated against LGBTQ people and their children were in place for years at Trinity Schools Inc., both before Barrett joined the board in 2015 and during the time she served.

The three schools, in Indiana, Minnesota and Virginia, are affiliated with People of Praise, an insular community rooted in its own interpretation of the Bible, of which Barrett and her husband have been longtime members. At least three of the couple’s seven children have attended the Trinity School at Greenlawn, in South Bend, Indiana.

The AP spoke with more than two dozen people who attended or worked at Trinity Schools, or former members of People of Praise. They said the community’s teachings have been consistent for decades: Homosexuality is an abomination against God, sex should occur only within marriage and marriage should only be between a man and a woman.
Imagine trying to argue that anyone should vote for Trump on the topic of gay rights.
 
Okay, so one guy has supported lots and lots of legislation that protects gay persons from discrimination and seeks to grant them equal rights and protections, and another guy has repeatedly opposed such legislation and tried to affirmatively discriminate against them. And your argument is that they're the same because the first guy doesn't really give a shit but was just doing it for votes?

Yeah, you're pretty useless.
He only did that for votes idiot, isn’t it obvious. He clearly stated his views on the matter in the video above.
 
Ahhhhh it's starting. They've accepted the election results and now it's them just bitching. Loving it
 
LOL. I love this argument from leftist nuts.

"I voted for the less racist, misogynist presidential candidate, that makes me superior".

Liberals have proved they don't mind sacrificing their beliefs and morals to get Trump out of office. You succeeded.

So if you were a prisoner in a concentration camp and you were allowed to actually vote for who you wanted the guards to be would you vote for the more cruel and ruthless Aryan supremacist or the less cruel and ruthless one?

Some of us have common sense. But you keep doing you.
 
Gay marriage is the last thing people should go after Biden for. He was one of the first elected politicians to publicly support it and took criticism at the time.
 
He should have started it by saying "I'm the least homophobic person in this room" .

lol

Trump's the kind of guy who would claim to be the least homophobic person on the street at a gay pride parade. Trump's political shamelessness operated on a level Biden hasn't even come close to touching in 40 years in Washington.
 
Biden also doesn't want his kids living in a racial jungle. It's all good though because the media told me he's not racist.

Who wants to live in a shithole?
 
Trump stripped and opposed discrimination protections in housing, healthcare, and employment for LGBTQ persons. He also sought to ban transgender persons from serving in the military.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...rollback-lgbt-healthcare-protections/?gb=true
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily...ve-to-limit-lgbt-rights-as-courts-expand-them
https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community
https://time.com/5660956/trump-administration-anti-gay-brief-title-vii/

Can you point to any actual policies that Biden supported that sought to harm LGBTQ persons? No? All you have is a 12 year-old clip of Biden saying he doesn't support entitling gay persons to marriage?

Gotcha.

I dunno. Not sure if I can support someone who says divisive things like gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry each other. It is time for unity.
 
But Bunker Boy and Pence woudlve supported gay marriage
 
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