Discussion in 'The War Room' started by abiG, May 22, 2019.
America would be a better place if we could get rid of dope heads and rent a thugs.
You tell em, gramps.
I will son.
That’s all I needed to hear.
Get used to living with your parents and posting memes for the rest of your life
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Where this is apparently "normal"
Pretty racist of you to say brown people = gang member.
You'd notice I specifically said "bad brown people".. But since you are racist, your mind immediately cut away the "bad" part and went straight to "all brown people"
Why is TS so quick to dismiss suicide? Availability of firearms actually increases suicide rates
Oh here are some ACTUAL sources for you brain dead dolts to read:
Instead of some bullshit site that tries to sell me survival kits, male vitality pills and gas masks for when the tyrannical lizard people finally decide to unleash anthrax on the population
firearms cannot choose to kill or suicide people. neither can prescription painkillers, tall bridges, or a chunk of rope.
I realize you are being sarcastic, but what you are saying does has some truth to it. especially if one were to observe mostly white countries in Europe. norway, Iceland etc. (pre mass refugee relocation of course)
facts aren't racist. but it's your story.
It makes sense that more suicides would occur by firearm in the U.S. because we are more culturally comfortable with guns. But with the widespread availability of alteranative methods of self death I think it’s moot. In Japan I’ve heard of some kind of cultural suicide forest where people go to kill themselves. Accept that a certain number of people are going to kill themselves, help them if you know them and care about them but don’t concern yourself too much with those you don’t know. Guns are not a problem in the world they are now part of the human condition and since nothing has ever been disinvented they will continue to be so.
Its not just that more suicide occurs by firearm than other means. Its that suicide RATE INCREASES when guns are readily available.
CDC's 10 Leading Causes of Injury Death - 2017
In 2017, there were 23,854 suicides by firearm . . . compared to 14,542 homicides by firearm. Compared to 22,938 and 14,415 respectively in 2016.
In 2005 the numbers were 17,002 and 12,352 respectively . . .
All of the stats from 2005 - 2017 are available here . . .
Guns don't make people kill themselves . . . they just make it more likely to be successful. If someone wants to die they're going to find a way regardless.
People who use this stat as a reason for more gun control need to rethink their position.
Wrong. The success rate of gun suicide vs success rate of other methods is a strong factor that plays into whether someone is going to attempt it.
Was this supposed to refute anything in my post? Because it didn't.
Here, I'll reword it for you . . .
Guns don't make people commit suicide. Guns make it easier for folks to be successful if they want to commit suicide. Someone who wants to die will find a way to die. With our without a gun.
The presence of guns makes people commit suicide who otherwise wouldn't have if they didn't have that option
Clear enough for you boy?
I don't doubt that there are folks who wouldn't have shot themselves without a gun being available. But the gun didn't put the thought into their heads. The presence of a gun didn't cause them to want to die.
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