Your thoughts on those modern reboots of classic slasher franchises?

[Guestx]

I think The Devil's Rejects was a very strange thing to WANT to make in the first place, but I thought he made it very well.

That's the vibe I've gotten from EVERY trailer for every Rob Zombie film. I'll ask, "Why would someone WANT to make this movie?"

I'm like, goddamn Rob Zombie, you twisted fuck!

 

[Death By Samson]

My thoughts are...

 

[BisexualMMA]

That's the vibe I've gotten from EVERY trailer for every Rob Zombie film. I'll ask, "Why would someone WANT to make this movie?"

I'm like, goddamn Rob Zombie, you twisted fuck!

Unfortunately, his directing has deteriorated badly since then. They're twisted ideas told in consistently less effective ways. It seems like at this point, all he really wants to do is get aged B-list actresses from the 1980s to show their boobs on screen.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Sid Haig the guy who plays Captain Spaulding in House of 1000 and Devils Rejects was a frequent visitor to my blockbuster when I was working there back in high school

Actually a really laid back and chill dude

 

[dawnignited]

Unfortunately, his directing has deteriorated badly since then. They're twisted ideas told in consistently less effective ways. It seems like at this point, all he really wants to do is get aged B-list actresses from the 1980s to show their boobs on screen.

 

[iThrillhouse]

The same can be said about a lot of the original films.

I love horror movies. I love the old ones and I can enjoy the remakes for what they are most of the time.

I dont think Wes Craven looked at Nightmare on elm Street as a quick cash grab,

Nor did John Carpenters Halloween,

Each series from that time had its own piece/mark on the genre that was original, inspired and creative

Sure thei sequels were pretty devoid of content/creativity and were seen as “cash grabs”

The original series were devoid of quality back in the 80’s early 90’s... reboots do nothing for the series besides earn the studios money... they add absolutely nothing to film or the original concepts/characters

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Unfortunately, his directing has deteriorated badly since then. They're twisted ideas told in consistently less effective ways. It seems like at this point, all he really wants to do is get aged B-list actresses from the 1980s to show their boobs on screen.

He showed talent tho

Have you seen Devil's Rejects? Halfway through that movie he gets us to feel sympathy for the Devils and actually makes the Cop chasing them into the fucked up bad guy.

It is probably his best movie now that I think about it

 

[BisexualMMA]

He showed talent tho

Have you seen Devil's Rejects? Halfway through that movie he gets us to feel sympathy for the Devils and actually makes the Cop chasing them into the fucked up bad guy.

It is probably his best movie now that I think about it

I think it's definitely his best movie. Yes, it's like a loving tribute to serial killers. It's a strange thing to do, but he pulls it off.

 

[iThrillhouse]

Here's the real question:

What could they have done to reboot the franchise, and stay true to the spirit of the original, which WOULDN'T have felt lackluster? How could this be accomplished?

Personally, I thought the movie was okay. Not great, but okay. My biggest issue with it was making Freddy a pedophile, which I thought was just unnecessary.

The question is WHY did it need to be rebooted?

I dont need to watch 2017’s photoshopped version of classic films if all theyre going to change is method of deaths and “motive”

Ironically I think if they had waited til AFTER stranger things came out

They could have probably beat the IT reboot to the punch and had a bunch of young kids being haunted and trying to defeat Freddy. Keep the “he’s a pedophile thing” dont make it “is he a pedo is he not?” Angle just make him straight “hes a pedo” so that him attacking and killing kids in their dreams is actually creepy not just Gory.

I think the reboot came at a bad time where the market was/is overloaded with torture-porn and gore... dont think people wanted ANOTHER overly saturated generic cgi-heavy slasher movie.

They could probably strike gols rebooting it now with kids... kid actors acting like adults and being on adventures is IN right now

 

[Guestx]

Sid Haig the guy who plays Captain Spaulding in House of 1000 and Devils Rejects was a frequent visitor to my blockbuster when I was working there back in high school

Actually a really laid back and chill dude

For some reason, I have thought you were probably too young to have worked at a Blockbuster in high school.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Hey, I'm down. I just felt uncomfortable for Meg Foster in the Lords of Salem. And while Judy Geeson managed to avoid the Zombie-mandated nudity, it was just weird watching her talk about sucking dirty cocks or whatever her lines were. This just wasn't the caliber of movie for them to have these scenes and have it come off the right way. Definitely not Kathy Bates in About Schmidt.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

For some reason, I have thought you were probably too young to have worked at a Blockbuster in high school.

The Blockbuster job was the greatest job of all time man

I met some of the coolest people I have ever known while working at blockbuster. Friends that I still keep in touch with today

 

[Guestx]

The question is WHY did it need to be rebooted?

One justification could be the same reason James Bond was rebooted with Casino Royale: There are more stories to tell with these characters.

Presumably if these new versions had spawned sequels then the sequels would've been new stories, not remakes of the old stories.

Keep the “he’s a pedophile thing” dont make it “is he a pedo is he not?” Angle just make him straight “hes a pedo” so that him attacking and killing kids in their dreams is actually creepy not just Gory.

I have to disagree on that one.

For me, that subject is such an uncomfortable one that I can't have fun with it. All the fun factor would be killed if I'm watching 90 minutes of a pedophile trying to murder kids. At the end of the day these films are still supposed to be entertaining and that is just not entertaining to me. It's the wrong kind of creepy.

 

[scorpipede]

Consider this a companion thread to my "iconic slasher villain" thread.

I'm sure most of remember the relatively recent reboots of the NOES, Friday the 13th and Halloween franchises. You also probably noticed that these were mostly one and done, with Friday the 13th and NOES never coming back to haunt us again, and Halloween only getting a single sequel.

For those who saw them, what did you think of these new versions of classic horror tales? And do you think they deserved to spawn a new series, as was undoubtedly the original intention?

I enjoyed the Halloween movies. Zombie's approach. I didn't like the insight into the killer's childhood as much as how it was done in the originals. All around though, not bad movies. I own both of them. Think I paid 6 bucks for both.
Friday the 13th was meh. I saw it one time and that'll be it pretty sure whereas I've seen all the originals up to Jason Goes To Hell countless times.
I never made it through the Nightmare remake. Was just talking about that yesterday in fact. Might give it another shot if I can do it for free.

 

[Guestx]

The Blockbuster job was the greatest job of all time man

I met some of the coolest people I have ever known while working at blockbuster. Friends that I still keep in touch with today

I actually worked at Hollywood Video for a little while back around the turn of the millennium. I agree that video store jobs are great jobs. I actually think I would appreciate it a lot more NOW than I did then.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

I enjoyed the Halloween movies. Zombie's approach. I didn't like the insight into the killer's childhood as much as how it was done in the originals. All around though, not bad movies. I own both of them. Think I paid 6 bucks for both.
Friday the 13th was meh. I saw it one time and that'll be it pretty sure whereas I've seen all the originals up to Jason Goes To Hell countless times.
I never made it through the Nightmare remake. Was just talking about that yesterday in fact. Might give it another shot if I can do it for free.

I saw the NOES remake twice in the theater

Its pretty ok

It starts very strong with that opening death in the dinner

Lots of story bog the middle of the movie down. To much story in fact

But overall I don't think its an awful remake

 

[BisexualMMA]

I actually worked at Hollywood Video for a little while back around the turn of the millennium. I agree that video store jobs are great jobs. I actually think I would appreciate it a lot more NOW than I did then.

 

[scorpipede]

I saw the NOES remake twice in the theater

Its pretty ok

It starts very strong with that opening death in the dinner

Lots of story bog the middle of the movie down. To much story in fact

But overall I don't think its an awful remake

I remember the lull and some emo kid that really bugged me. Ever have an actor that you just can't stand for some inexplicable reason? That guy is one for me so that didn't help things.

 

[Philo-Publius]

Consider this a companion thread to my "iconic slasher villain" thread.

I'm sure most of remember the relatively recent reboots of the NOES, Friday the 13th and Halloween franchises. You also probably noticed that these were mostly one and done, with Friday the 13th and NOES never coming back to haunt us again, and Halloween only getting a single sequel.

For those who saw them, what did you think of these new versions of classic horror tales? And do you think they deserved to spawn a new series, as was undoubtedly the original intention?

The Nightmare on Elm Street 2010 remake was garbage. The Freddy character was probably portrayed more realistically in this version (considering his background), but he was devoid of the charm/humor that the original Freddy had.

The Halloween (2007) and Halloween II (2009) remakes were also garbage. They lacked the mystery of the original two (in large part due to showing Michael's backstory and humanizing him so much).

The 2009 Friday the 13th semi-reboot was great. Thoroughly enjoyed it, and I thought adding the character development of Jason that they did made it more creepy. In many ways, I liked it better than the original films.

The 2003 remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre was also great. In fact, it was definitely better than the original.

The 1998 remake of Psycho was garbage. Vince Vaughn was not very convincing as Norman Bates, and it didn't come close to the original (which is a classic).

 

[HereticBD]

Consider this a companion thread to my "iconic slasher villain" thread.

I'm sure most of remember the relatively recent reboots of the NOES, Friday the 13th and Halloween franchises. You also probably noticed that these were mostly one and done, with Friday the 13th and NOES never coming back to haunt us again, and Halloween only getting a single sequel.

For those who saw them, what did you think of these new versions of classic horror tales? And do you think they deserved to spawn a new series, as was undoubtedly the original intention?

They were all terrible. I'll give F13th a bit of leeway though, because it wasn't exactly working with much, and wasn't cringe inducing, like the other two. Although, it failed in it's one key area, the kills. They were lame as hell. You can't do a modern F13th reboot, and have boring ass, unimaginative kills. You had one job, F13th reboot. One job.

The other two were just god awful in every conceivable way. I had high hopes for JEH as Freddy, but he sucked a bag of dicks too.


Best slasher remake made so far, was "Maniac". Arguably better than the original, and a damn fine film in it's own right.

I also dug the 2003 TCM remake. Doesn't hold a candle to the original, but it was still pretty good, and gave us Sheriff Hoyt.