Your Personal Political Heroes (and their quotes)

Abraham Lincoln -

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

"I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong."


Thomas Jefferson -

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

"A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference."

"A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned."


John Adams -

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

George Washington -

"To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving peace."


Ralph Waldo Emerson -

"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment."

Benjamin Franklin -

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."


James Madison -

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
 
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Gandhiji>New Atheists
 
"I do not believe he would steal a red hot stove."

"I repose in this quiet and secluded spot not from any natural preference for solitude, but finding other cemeteries limited as to race by charter rules, I have chosen this that I might illustrate in my death the principles which I advocated through a long life: EQUALITY OF MAN BEFORE HIS CREATOR."
-Thaddeus Stevens

"America must get to work. In the chilled climate in which we live, we must go against the prevailing winds. We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred, and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that buried its head in the sand waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education, or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and timeless absence of moral leadership. We must dissent, because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better."
-Thurgood Marshall

“How could men get fat by being bad and starve by being good? I thought and thought about my vision, and it made me very sad.”
-John G. Neihardt
 
Because, under that oppressive government, the weak and needy have much, much better lives with access to education, health care, and employment opportunities.

Oh you mean those grossly inflated statistics the Castro regime cranked out to make it look like the quality of life is better than it really was? Mind you before the take over both Che and Fidel noted the importance of spreading propaganda in their writings. lets take the health care for example. It's been proven time and time again from both Cuban medical workers who have fled the country and foreign doctors who visited over there that the government blatantly lies an covers up numerous matters in regards to the health care they provide their citizens. The state of many hospitals are understaffed,the conditions are in squalor and the best medical care is reserved for foreigners visiting the country and the elite in the government

The latter in particular is rather amusing as it's always the same story with Marxist countries isn't it? Promises of sharing with everyone then the elite always end up hogging all the good stuff from the lower class.



The "all for naught" suggestion is just ignorant. Even outside of the Cuban people, he helped turn the Latin American tide irreversibly against direct US political dominance.

No what is ignorant is sitting here in the lap of luxury in a first world country an praising a system you don't have to live under when hordes of its own citizens were fleeing the system at the expense of being jailed or put to death. How many Cubans do you know per chance? Are all these people who fled from Castro merely terrible middle class/upper class Batista supporters who been coached by capitalists to spread propaganda about the state of Cuba under Castro?

You have already resorted to the mental gymnastics of reasoning Castro and his ilk must have been the "good guys" because the combated US political dominance and rationalize that his government was a success because they may have prospered to varying degrees in a few areas that other neighboring countries didn't. For someone still trying to go with the whole "rah rah Marxisim!" yarn taking a country from shit to somewhat less shit is a triumph to more reasonable people however it doing precisely what i said exchanging one horrible oppressive regime for another.

As far as Che not being corruptible, well he had no problem with designs to fanatically purge his enemies and anyone deemed to be part of the "bourgeois" so its hard to imagine things under his guidance would have been a whole lot better.
 
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'Ka whawhai tonu mātou, Ake! Ake! Ake! - We will fight on for ever and ever!'

- Rewi Maniapoto (my great, great, great grandad)
 
Democracy tends to ignore, even deny, threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed to counter them," explained Revel. "It awakens only when the danger becomes deadly, imminent, and evident. By then, either there is too little time left for it to save itself, or the price of survival has become crushingly high.

Jean Francois Revel
 
Mahatma Gandhi was a complete cuck.
Churchill wanted to maintain the empire

Gandhi wanted to destroy it. In the end, who got what they wanted?

In the end, Gandhiji cucked the crown and Churchill. He was the sun set for the greatest empire in world history and he did it without firing a bullet, can't get more alpha than that.

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Whole lotta quotes that aren't real in here.
 
It seems like a lot of...certain posters here are largely reactionary, which doesn't seem to draw from any particular principle or ideology, so I'm curious to see the list of figures from whom posters here draw influence and inspiration.


For me, some that come to mind are:

1. Ernesto "Che" Guevara (Argentinian physician, revolutionary, and poet)

"Above all, always be capable of feeling deeply any injustice committed against anyone, anywhere in the world. This is the most beautiful quality in a revolutionary."

2. Malcolm X (US theorist and political organizer)

"It's impossible for a white person to believe in capitalism and not believe in racism. You can't have capitalism without racism."

3. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Greatest President in US history)

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerated the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism: ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.”

4. Thomas Sankara (Burkinabe revolutionary and political leader)

"The revolution and women's liberation go together. We do not talk of women's emancipation as an act of charity or out of a surge of human compassion. It is a basic necessity for the revolution to triumph. Women hold up the other half of the sky."

5. Frederick Douglass (US writer, activist, and former slave)

"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will."

6. Harriet Tubman (US abolitionist)

"I had reasoned this out in my mind, there was one of two things I had a right to, liberty or death; if I could not have one, I would have the other."

7. Karl Marx (German social scientist and philosopher)

"Capital is dead labor, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks."

8. W.E.B. Du Bois (US sociologist and activist)

"To stimulate wildly weak and untrained minds is to play with mighty fires."

9. Thurgood Marshall (US Supreme Court Justice and lawyer)

"In recognizing the humanity of our fellow beings, we pay ourselves the highest tribute."

10. Vladimir Lenin (Russian revolutionary and theorist)

If it were necessary to give the briefest possible definition of imperialism, we should have to say that imperialism is the monopoly stage of capitalism.

11. Simone de Beauvoir (French philosopher)

"Man is defined as a human being and a woman as a female - whenever she behaves as a human being she is said to imitate the male."

12. Louise Michel (French revolutionary)

"Since it seems that every heart that beats for freedom has no right to anything but a slug of lead, I demand my share. If you let me live, I shall never cease to cry for vengeance. If you are not cowards, kill me."


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Socialists don't love the poor, they just hate the rich - Goonerview
 
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Socialists don't love the poor, they just hate the rich - Goonerview

those numbers at least for stalin are way exagerrated. for hitler he started a world war of course his numbers high. mao yeah maybe accurate.
 
“Capacity for the nobler feelings is in most natures a very tender plant, easily killed, not only by hostile influences, but by mere want of sustenance; and in the majority of young persons it speedily dies away if the occupations to which their position in life has devoted them, and the society into which it has thrown them, are not favourable to keeping that higher capacity in exercise. Men lose their high aspirations as they lose their intellectual tastes, because they have not time or opportunity for indulging them; and they addict themselves to inferior pleasures, not because they deliberately prefer them, but because they are either the only ones to which they have access, or the only ones which they are any longer capable of enjoying.”
John Stuart Mill

“The utilitarian morality does recognize in human beings the power of sacrificing their own greatest good for the good of others. It only refuses to admit that the sacrifice is itself a good. A sacrifice which does not increase, or tend to increase, the sum total of happiness, it considers as wasted.”
John Stuart Mill

It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, is of a different opinion, it is only because they only know their own side of the question.”
John Stuart Mill

“The prudent man always studies seriously and earnestly to understand whatever he professes to understand, and not merely to persuade other people that he understands it; and though his talents may not always be very brilliant, they are always perfectly genuine”
Adam Smith

“All signs are that the Scandinavian countries, where wage inequality is more moderate than elsewhere, owe this result in large part to the fact that their educational system is relatively egalitarian and inclusive.”
Thomas Piketty

“In all human societies, health and education have an intrinsic value: the ability to enjoy years of good health, like the ability to acquire knowledge and culture, is one of the fundamental purposes of civilization.”
Thomas Piketty

“In the long run, the best way to reduce inequalities with respect to labor as well as to increase the average productivity of the labor force and the overall growth of the economy is surely to invest in education.”
Thomas Piketty

"The entrepreneur inevitably tends to become a rentier, more and more dominant over those who own nothing but their labor. Once constituted, capital reproduces itself faster than output increases. The past devours the future.”
Thomas Piketty

“For those who believe in God, most of the big questions are answered. But for those of us who can't readily accept the God formula, the big answers don't remain stone-written. We adjust to new conditions and discoveries. We are pliable. Love need not be a command nor faith a dictum. I am my own god. We are here to unlearn the teachings of the church, state, and our educational system. We are here to drink beer. We are here to kill war. We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us.”
Charles Bukowski
 
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