Yahoo sports - UFC discredits the sport.

Fair play.

I did see you watching me though.
"Watching you?" What the fuck does that even mean?

I wasn't "watching" anything. In fact, the only thing that caught my eye on the forum list was the thread about those motorcycle dipshits in New York. It actually had nothing to do with you.

I don't actually give a shit about you. You made troll thread, then threw a temper tantrum when I called it out as a badly written article and asked you not to post garbage threads on Sherdog. You called me names, tried to make it personal, and that's when the fun began. I'm not "watching" you, and I never will "watch" you. In fact, if you're smart, you won't mention me again, and I'll forget about you. Because you aren't important. You're just relevant as a target of opportunity, and you keep putting yourself on my radar. It's too easy to shoot you out of the sky.
We all know you just wanted to bump this thread again.
No, trust me, I'll never once bump a shit thread just to bump it. My handiwork here is excellent, but I shred trolls on a regular basis so there's no need to bask in one specific success. I try to promote only the high quality content that contributes to the forum. But trolljobs like this tend to stay at the top, sadly. So it's my job to make fun, quotable posts that do two things. 1: Entertain Sherdog's reasonable and intelligent contributors and bring value to a shit thread. 2: Rile up the trolls and low quality content posters.
 
Oh no! I've been ignored by one of Sherdog's lowest quality posters and most ridiculously stupid haters. Whatever will I do?

I'm in the signatures of a multitude of posters here, but my posts are the insipid ones. :icon_lol:

Calm down. Lets get back on topic.

Anything to add to the debate.

Im glad you bumped this actually.

Heres what i worked out.

UFC is based on 5 things.

1 Sporting Credibility
2 Lineage to real fighting
3 Hype
4 Attractive fights
5 Safety

Danas critically fucked with 2 of those things however you look at it.

Like i said before, everyone tries to make it about Okami, but the 9 guys left in that top 10 are the worst part of it.

How can you maintain sporting credibility if you tell the fighters how to fight.

How can you maintain the lineage to real fighting and the legacy that goes with that, if you selectively breed out an effective form of wrestling.

Riddle me that, batman.

"Watching you?" What the fuck does that even mean?

I wasn't "watching" anything. In fact, the only thing that caught my eye on the forum list was the thread about those motorcycle dipshits in New York. It actually had nothing to do with you.

I don't actually give a shit about you. You made troll thread, then threw a temper tantrum when I called it out as a badly written article and asked you not to post garbage threads on Sherdog. You called me names, tried to make it personal, and that's when the fun began. I'm not "watching" you, and I never will "watch" you. In fact, if you're smart, you won't mention me again, and I'll forget about you. Because you aren't important. You're just relevant as a target of opportunity, and you keep putting yourself on my radar. It's too easy to shoot you out of the sky.

No, trust me, I'll never once bump a shit thread just to bump it. My handiwork here is excellent, but I shred trolls on a regular basis so there's no need to bask in one specific success. I try to promote only the high quality content that contributes to the forum. But trolljobs like this tend to stay at the top, sadly. So it's my job to make fun, quotable posts that do two things. 1: Entertain Sherdog's reasonable and intelligent contributors and bring value to a shit thread. 2: Rile up the trolls and low quality content posters.

Good luck with that son, you might wind up getting carpet bombed into a million pieces again.

Youre protesting a bit too much princess.

Its not my fault you are sore.

Its incredulous for you to call others names, when they are putting out polite points and defending them, and you come in swinging like a drunk at them and hurling witless insults. Try being assured for a change, instead of deranged. Do what you want with that.
 
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Lets settle this thing. No rules, just win. We'll meet in Las Vegas, see that canyon over there. Me and FaceStab versus all comers...Lets Get It On...!!!!

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Originally posted by ethanfranklin

Calm down. Lets get back on topic.

Anything to add to the debate.

Im glad you bumped this actually.

Heres what i worked out.

UFC is based on 5 things.

1 Sporting Credibility
2 Lineage to real fighting
3 Hype
4 Attractive fights
5 Safety

Danas critically fucked with 2 of those things however you look at it.

Like i said before, everyone tries to make it about Okami, but the 9 guys left in that top 10 are the worst part of it.

How can you maintain sporting credibility if you tell the fighters how to fight.

How can you maintain the lineage to real fighting and the legacy that goes with that, if you selectively breed out an effective form of wrestling.

Riddle me that, batman.

Its these kinds of points that leads me to believe you're a quality poster with a lot of potential. Keep up the good work.
 
Its these kinds of points that leads me to believe you're a quality poster with a lot of potential. Keep up the good work.

Cheers bro.

Ive been watching the game longer than your account, but your words are kind, and ive enjoyed your posts too, so thank you.

Lets settle this thing. No rules, just win. We'll meet in Las Vegas, see that canyon over there. Me and FaceStab versus all comers...Lets Get It On...!!!!

341600571_f2e3b2db68.jpg

:D GTFO

People like that talk trash and then try to reason with people when it comes on top.

People like us reason with people and then well, if they dont listen, thats too bad for them.

If you are with facestab, im thinking you are "people like that", and not "people like us".

Id like to move this on back on topic or let the thread sink, before facestab comes back with his sons of anarchy e dentity to show us all how we dont understand or know who he is.
 
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If you are with facestab, im thinking you are "people like that", and not "people like us".

Id like to move this on back on topic or let the thread sink, before facestab comes back with his sons of anarchy e dentity to show us all how we dont understand or know who he is.

WTF is a "sons of anarchy e dentity"?
 
Strong post. If the UFC does weed out ground fighters systematically as you are predicting, then they'll quickly lose me as a fan. However, there are a lot of grapplers who seem to be quite popular amongst the fans. What they are really weeding out, in my estimation, is point fighters. Point fighting, love it or hate it, can be a strategy for both strikers and grapplers and so targeting point fighters shouldn't upset the balance of striking vs grappling in the long run.

It'll be interesting to see who the next high profile cut is (I'm assuming they were at least partially serious about thinning out the roster even if they don't actually cut 100 fighters.)

Fair play. I missed that the first time around pedro. Would be interesting what your definition of a ground fighter consists off, because wrestling in MMA as in real life, is the ultimate hype killer.

If they left the wrestler on top of the striker for 20 minutes, that lnp/gnp is adding up.

Its easy to knock it, but its still knocking you, while you are under it.

I think people need to realize, ugly is effective.

Points exist in all sports. Its a war under rules in there. Its all violence to me.

WTF is a "sons of anarchy e dentity"?

:icon_lol: Dude thinks hes jax teller.

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Cheers bro.

Ive been watching the game longer than your account, but your words are kind, and ive enjoyed your posts too, so thank you.



:D GTFO

People like that talk trash and then try to reason with people when it comes on top.

People like us reason with people and then well, if they dont listen, thats too bad for them.

If you are with facestab, im thinking you are "people like that", and not "people like us".

Id like to move this on back on topic or let the thread sink, before facestab comes back with his sons of anarchy e dentity to show us all how we dont understand or know who he is.

Talk to your Doctor about viagra
 
GSP is one of very few fighters who pretty much cleaned out the division on his way to acquiring the title. The guy earned his position every step of the way. Having had the opportunity to watch his UFC career unfold, I consider it a privilege.

He does play it safe now though, quite a bit more than a few years ago. So the detractors do have a leg to stand on in that respect. I have to agree. But he is still here, still winning, and for the time being, pretty much on top of the world. He's an excellent champion and role model for the sport.

Moving back into topic, its refreshing to see a journalist like Joe Napoli calling it as he see's it. Not playing it safe and hitting on a topic which has some kind of actual meaning.

I'm impressed.

GSP is a good example of someone who could be labelled a points fighter. But what hes doing in there, is destroying the other guys game. Quite a lot of "points fighters" do that. Edgar is one that springs to mind. Its all in the game.

If you can deconstruct and dismantle another professional fighters best game, and send them out of contention like they didnt belong in the same sport as you, whos to say thats not better.

What GSP did to Kos was worse than anything Cain or JDS did to each other.

Talk to your Doctor about viagra

Am i not hitting that spot, princess.
 
Combat sports (as a whole) has always fucked people over...regardless of "skill" or ranking. How long did it take Marvin Hagler to get a meaningful fight? Why was Leonard able to successfully avoid a fight with Aaron Pryor? Why did it take Winky Wright like 40+ fights in obscure locales until he got a big fight? Why did Roy duck Bernard for the rematch for years and years?

IT'S COMBAT SPORTS...THIS SHIT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!

Yahoo needs to quit crying and whining while blaming the UFC, and learn history.
 
Just yet another huge blunder by the bald bozo most idiots on here actually revere..

Pathetic, really. Glad at least someone is bringing attention to it.. I really am surprised anybody could agree with this cut, but hey, this is Sherdog!
 
Well Dana and the UFC never shys away from making the fights that people want to see like a Jones vs Chael.

The Okami cut is a bit odd considering he won 3 fights in a row prior to losing to Jacare. Makes me question why guys like Leben are around.....i mean yes he's a stand up fighter....but really at this point his fights are just bad to watch
 
UFC is based on 5 things.

1 Sporting Credibility
2 Lineage to real fighting
3 Hype
4 Attractive fights
5 Safety

This is were you are wrong. The UFC is based on making money by giving fans a product they are willing to buy.
 
This is were you are wrong. The UFC is based on making money by giving fans a product they are willing to buy.

And i just told you what that product is.

Its also based on the lineage and the legacy it claims.

Fad sports think short hand, the ones that last, dont.
 
This is were you are wrong. The UFC is based on making money by giving fans a product they are willing to buy.

this is where you are wrong... well...let me rephrase: this is where you SHOULD be wrong.:redface:

UFC is a promotion that promotes the sport of MMA.

The Sport of MMA should not care if the fighter is boring or not.
it should care only that the rules should be applied to everyone, and may the best fighter win, whatever is his style of fighting.


Now, I understand that UFC is a business and should obviously try to make money. But beyond that, I don't know if you are correct.

Heck, last time they said they would make a fight everyone was asking for, we got Tito & Chuck on TUF... remember that? :icon_lol:
Then we got Sonnen & Jon...


yeah, I don't think you are right with this "give us the fight we want" thing...


And even if that was correct, they CAN give us the fight we'd want without meddling with the credibility of the sport.
 
This may have been posted but if not, I think it's worth mentioning:

"That's fine when you think about it as a dream, but it's harder to swallow when you think of it as a job. If Okami were a software engineer, being the seventh best in his category would probably ensure him gainful employment for years to come. Even being the seventh best shortstop in Major League Baseball would make him a millionaire, though the pool of willing participants tends to be a lot larger when the most dangerous part of your job is fielding indifferent grounders as opposed to dodging menacing, well-aimed punches."

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/...ome-ufc-cuts-are-tough-brutal-and-unavoidable
 
this is where you are wrong... well...let me rephrase: this is where you SHOULD be wrong.:redface:

UFC is a promotion that promotes the sport of MMA.

The Sport of MMA should not care if the fighter is boring or not.
it should care only that the rules should be applied to everyone, and may the best fighter win, whatever is his style of fighting.


Now, I understand that UFC is a business and should obviously try to make money. But beyond that, I don't know if you are correct.

Heck, last time they said they would make a fight everyone was asking for, we got Tito & Chuck on TUF... remember that? :icon_lol:
Then we got Sonnen & Jon...


yeah, I don't think you are right with this "give us the fight we want" thing...


And even if that was correct, they CAN give us the fight we'd want without meddling with the credibility of the sport.

Amen.

I am sick and tired of ufc and dana white taking those stupid decisions. '' Wow he is so boring, he should be cut''. I hope Bellator takes over, their format is much more professional and fair anyway. You want a title? There is a tourney to decide who is going to be the next contender. No more Brock Lesnar having title shots after 2 wins, no more Chael Sonnens getting their title shots by talking their way into it.
 
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