wrestling vs boxing

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  1. brownsmith76 Yellow Belt

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    A lot of Conor fanboys are saying that wrestlers have better cardio than boxers.

    Let's take a look at their argument. If you were at the gym and then put 200 pounds on your back, your glutes would get tired after squatting 10 times. Is this "cardio"?





    I'm sorry, but wrestling is not cardio. You hug and press against each other. Your glutes may get tired out, but this is not the same as boxing.

    The word "cardio" means heart. Boxers have a better heart rate over 30 minutes. They do jump rope and work on the speed bag.

    Boxers have to have good footwork, head movement, parrying, combinations, and even clinch work.
     
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    You don't know shit about wrestling.
     
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    They are just different. Both require good cardio, but you can't train for one thing and do the other. Also, "cardio" gets thrown out there as a confusion with endurance.
     
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    2 entirely different types of cardio/wind/endurance. You are somewhat right about your lifting analogy, it would be more like putting 2 45's on the bar and then squatting it for 10-25 reps, quickly, then holding it mid squat, then hitting 10-25 reps quickly, then holding it mid squat... all this for the entire duration of the round... expect it would be your entire body, not just your legs, and the bar would be trying to manipulate your own body weight and momentum against you
     
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    I'm 100% positive you couldn't make it through one of my 12 year olds wrestling practices. (If you actually believe what you wrote)
     
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    Stop exaggerating. The referee gives whistles and there are breaks in between where wrestlers can catch their breath. You don't hold 135 pounds on your shoulders!

    He's also grabbing his leg and putting his chest on top of Kurt Angle's back. I'm sorry, but that's not squatting 135 pounds.

    http://artnetweb.com/iola/mrnetart/rules.html
    "Match length: 5 minutes, one period"
    "If neither wrestler scores at least three points during regulation, the bout goes into a three-minute overtime period."

    There's a reason why wrestlers go for only 5-8 minutes while boxers can go 36 minutes.
     
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    Well, ive only been wrestling and doing jiujitsu, and boxing, and muay thai, and boxing for the last 10 years, but what do I know?
     
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    Having actually done both, I'm going to say it's quite stupid to compare the two.

    It's the same as marathon runners coming in to boxing/wrestling and gassing quickly. Just a different type of exercise.
     
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    Why not 205 instead of 200? that is a bitch to load...maybe you don't know any better.
     
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    Strength, strength endurance, anaerobic threshold, blah blah blah
     
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    Why are there so many stupid people on the internet now? Well... maybe they've always been on the internet, but suddenly they're popping up in places where I talk about my interests.
     
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    They are both fucking miserable and there's a reason you see guys mentally break from exhaustion in both.

    I put it like this:
    1) Wrestling is 6ish minutes of 400m sprints with 10 second or so breaks.
    2) Boxing is 30ish minutes of running with 10 second or so sprints throughout it.

    I'd rather do neither. I tried last week to do a match with my nephew and by the end of it I was dizzy, dry heaving, and ready for bed.
     
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    I think wrestling is more of a lactic/anaerobic based sport.
    Whereas boxing is a lot more aerobic based.
    Make a boxer wrestle and his arms ad legs will feel like they are on fire after less than 2 minutes. Make a wrestler box and he will be gasping for air after 3 rounds.
     
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    They're just different. Conditioning tends to reflect activity specificity.

    Boxers will tend to have better aerobic conditioning, as befits the larger number of periods. Wrestlers (particularly folkstyle wrestlers) will tend to have better lactic power.

    Complicating this is the fact that only one of these things has a scholastic feeder system in the US, so here at least, there is a mechanism to channel talented wrestlers to competent coaching, and to encourage them to maintain good GPP throughout the year- so average fitness among wrestlers may be better than among average boxers here because more of them have been training longer under competent coaches, and will have their schools actively making time for them to train. A lot of people boxing will have done so because they sought out boxing, and may be more casually invested in their training unless they're a serious competitor.
     
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    Why would boxers fight gay porn?
     
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    The rules produce the pace, not the other way around. When professional wrestling was unscripted, it wasn't unknown for matches to go 30+minutes, fairly similar to submission-only contests. I'd expect that era's wrestlers had very different physical attributes than someone winning the NCAA for folkstyle today.
     
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    Better cardio sure but far worse strength endurance. If you lack the strength endurance it doesn't matter if you have lance armstrong's cardio, your endurance (in MMA) will be shit.
     
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    Its different as the others say. Wrestling is definitely more anaerobic compared to boxing (or striking)

    Striking has alot of "conning" and bullshitting inside so guys can last longer ;)
    You don't throw every single strike with bad intentions, most of the time only 1 or 2 strikes are your main strikes thats hidden away behind bullshit. 1,2,3,kick. The kick is real, the rest is fluff.
     
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    I thought wrestlers skipped rope and did a lot of cardio too .i believe you have to have good footwork and agility in wrestling too .what is with this childish narrowmindness? One really isnt better than the other. I have no idea but I'm think there at be more cross over between the two sports than most people think.you make it sound as though wrestlers are unatheletic , clumsy fat guys who are in terrible shape. Most of the wrestlers I've known tended to be very lean and somewhat muscular, like boxers. it would probably be benefical to train in both.You can like coke and Pepsi ,folks.
     
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