do you guys think spiral ride is a good move in mma off a double if they try to turtle? good guys dont play guard anymore, soon as you take them down they are trying to get back up. im wanting to focus on breakdowns and control because keep having to take a guy down will gas you in the first round, and thats no way to go out. id love to see more of this type of stuff. guys in the last few years have gotten really good at building there base back up thats why weidman has been losing lately i think. he hits a run the pipe single and guys pop right back up and hes gassed. what are some good techniques or rules thing to look for right away to stop standing up in your opinion?