Would Stephens have the worst record

Njmma209 said:
Mark hunt got an interim title shot with a 10-8-1 overall mma record.
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I'm just referring to fighters UFC records though not their overall mma records. Hunt was 5-1-1 in his last 7 and 5-2-1 overall in the UFC and was also a short notice replacement, plus it was only for the interim belt.
 
Nick Diaz was 7 - 5 in the UFC, coming off a loss to Condit, when he got a Title Shot at GSP.

Then he showed up and quit when he was being outclassed, then retired in the post fight presser.
 
thelittleman said:
Look at his record. All of his losses are to top of the food-chain fighters.


Renato Moicano - undefeated at the time

Frankie Edgar - Ex LW Champ - Top 5 FW

Max Holloway - Current FW Champ

Charles Olivera - Borderline top 10 FW

Cub Swanson - Top 5 FW

Donald Cerrone - Top 10 LW

Anthony Pettis - Top 10 LW - Went on to become LW Champ


http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...ted-historical-rankings/?Issue=113&Division=6
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He was beating Cub before he broke his hand I would love to see that rematch. I believe he left Alliance for the Moicano fight which was a stupid move & probably cost him that fight.
 
Tim Elliot was 13-6-1 (2-4 UFC)
Matt Serra 9-4 (5-4 UFC)
special circumstances of course
 
welcometohavoc said:
Not sure what your point is here. Do you want me to post vids of Stephens getting outclassed by Edgar, Swanson, Holloway, fucking Yves Edwards?
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My point is that he only loses to top fighters. If you fight 3 times a year, and fight the best fighters, you are going to lose.

In the last 4 years, Stephen's has fought 9 times. In the same amount of time, Jose Aldo only fought 4 times, and Khabib only fought 4 times. The more you fight, the more chances you have to lose.

"fucking Yves Edwards"

Yves Edwards is legit fighter, and was 1 of the top LW's in MMA for years.

Many people didn't even know who Ferguson(ranked # 11 at the time) was until he beat Josh Thomson(ranked # 9 at the time).

 
FlyingDeathKick said:
Of anybody to ever get a title shot in the UFC? His UFC record is 15-13

Edit: seems like some people didn't get it, I'm not saying he's getting a title shot I'm saying if he manages to pick up another win and then does get a title shot. Basically the point of this thread was to find out who has had the worst record of anybody to ever get a title shot in the UFC.
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3-5-2 as a pro, and his first UFC fight was a title shot against Frank Shamrock.
He was on a 0-5-1 losing streak despite having squeeked by Frank much earlier in his career.
 
tenniswhiz said:
3-5-2 as a pro, and his first UFC fight was a title shot against Frank Shamrock.
He was on a 0-5-1 losing streak despite having squeeked by Frank much earlier in his career.
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Don't post his name or anything.
 
welcometohavoc said:
Records still matter, just not overall records. Recent records are more accurate.

Unfortunately for Stephens even his recent record isnt great. 5-4 since 2015, 3-2 in his last 5
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Nope, record is an irrelevant stat, no matter recent or not.
The whole MMA/UFC model shows, that record does not indicate anything about fighter's value.
 
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