WONDER WOMAN v.2 (Ends B.O. Run with $819M; Honest Trailer; Patty Jenkins to Direct Sequel)

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If you have seen WONDER WOMAN, how would you rate it?

  1. 10 - Excellent

    5.7%
  2. 9 - Great

    24.6%
  3. 8 - Good

    36.0%
  4. 7 - Pretty Good

    14.9%
  5. 6 - Decent

    7.4%
  6. 5 - Average

    6.9%
  7. 4 - Poor

    1.7%
  8. 3 - Bad

    1.1%
  9. 2 - Terribad

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  10. 1 - Abysmal (Explain)

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  1. Dragonlordxxxxx Senior Moderator

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    Update: May 31, 2017

    Dragonlord's Review of WONDER WOMAN
    (No Spoilers)

    Bottom Line: Arguably DCEU's best film yet and the first legit good female superhero movie, Wonder Woman delivers thanks to its enthralling lead character/actress and sleek action sequences.

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    For decades there has been a misconception that a good female superhero movie is impossible to make with detractors always citing Supergirl (1984), Elektra (2005) and Catwoman (2004) as proof. Hogwash. The truth is those movies unfortunately just have bad casting, bad story and/or bad direction. Patty Jenkins' Wonder Woman shatters those misapprehensions by being the first legit good female superhero movie in a major Hollywood motion picture.

    Wonder Woman tells the story of Princess Diana (Gal Gadot) from Themyscira, an enchanted island comprised of battle-hardened Amazons. When Steve Trevor (Chris Pine) crash lands nearby the island, Diana learns about World War I and vows to stop the conflict by journeying to man's world by killing the god of war Ares whom she believes is the cause of the chaos.

    Gal Gadot is simply captivating as Princess Diana/Wonder Woman, her charm is a delight and her beauty so stunning. They play the fish-out-of-water segments to humorous results and just the right dash as not to overshadow everything. Diana's innocence and naivete are endearing but not to the point of putting her down. When she goes into action mode, she's just a bad-ass. Speaking of badasses, the Amazons, though they only appear for a short time, were amazing to see in action especially Antiope (Robin Wright).

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    Themysicra is bright, striking and filled with vibrant colors. But when Diana goes to man's world, everything is bleaker and drained of color. In other words, they've entered Zack Snyder's world. Snyder might only be the writer and producer in this film, but his fingerprints are all over this, from the color grading to the impressive Snyder-esque action sequences. Thankfully he didn't infect Wonder Woman with a case of brooding and morose as he did with Superman.

    Chris Pine is affable as Steve Trevor, the leading man and potential love interest for Diana. Danny Huston as General Ludendorff was a pretty good villain. Elena Anaya as Dr. Maru was a decent secondary villain. But due to the story's last act, the villains were a bit shortchanged and didn't live up to their full potential (more on that in the spoiler box below).

    At times, Wonder Woman feels like a cross between Thor (2011) and Captain America: The First Avenger. Not a criticism, just an observation. These admittedly flimsy comparisons to Thor is due to the mythological background, regal ancestry and fish-out-of-water element while The First Avenger due to the period war setting, the enlisting of a special unit to assist the protagonist and the ending.

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    One of the best things about the film is the sensational action. The impressive fight choreography smoothly blends stylistic slow mo with fast-paced, kinetically-charged panache while maintaining motion clarity. The extended battle sequence that started at the "No Man's Land" was initially stirring and then simply kicked ass. The rousing score by Rupert Gregson-Williams deserves a mention. The now-famous Wonder Woman electric cello theme by Hans Zimmer and Junkie XL is also present.

    The finale battle brings about a jarring tonal shift that takes me out of the moment a little and the lack of build up for the sudden last-minute revelation was unfortunate (more on this in the spoiler box below).

    For almost 10 years now, I've been saying to denigrators that a live-action Wonder Woman movie can be good if they just follow George Perez's 1987 seminal origin story or the 2009 Wonder Woman animated movie. And I was right. The 2017 movie's framework is clearly based on the two examples I presented.

    Overall, Wonder Woman is an enjoyable viewing thanks to its captivating lead character/actress, engaging story, and outstanding action. There is no post-credits scene.

    Rating: 8/10

    Warning: Major Spoilers below.

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    The final battle is between Wonder Woman and Ares. Sir Patrick Morgan (played by David Thewlis) is revealed to be the god of war. What takes me out of the moment a little is that the movie, although fantastical in nature, was sort of relatively grounded in the way they portrayed super powers. Diana's super strong, fast, tough, has quick reflexes. These are all tangibles. But during the final battle, it becomes like an episode of Dragonball Z with Diana leveling up to Super Saiyan levels and with unexplained new powers and Ares teleporting, shooting lightning bolts and displaying telekinesis on a massive scale. Although they foreshadowed Diana's potential early in the movie where she accidentally zapped Antiope, it's still jarring to see the sudden introduction of high levels of super powers and out-of-nowhere special abilities like force field in an otherwise mostly grounded scenario. Many will probably enjoy this powerful version of Wonder Woman and there's nothing wrong with that. I just prefer the version with the sensible powers more.

    Ludendorff and Dr. Maru didn't live up to their full potential because of the last-minute revelation that Sir Patrick Morgan was Ares, the big bad of the movie. Although Ares was mentioned many times in the movie, there was no build-up. I understand that they intended Ares to be a surprise but it was a bit erratic when he suddenly appeared and started doing Magneto stuff (even though I already knew Thewlis was playing Ares).

    The above statements are not major complaints. And maybe on future viewings I'll learn to accept it. We'll see.

    At the end of the film, it is revealed that Diana remained on man's world and continued to fight evil and injustice around the world. The head-scratcher is how come nobody, not even Batman, has even heard about Diana's exploits since she has been around since 1918. There is some wiggle room (although it requires an extra suspension of disbelief) on why nobody has heard about Diana and what she did in WWI since it was an isolated event, the mission was classified, most of the people that witnessed her in action died in the gas attack, and nobody believed the survivors' (from both sides) stories.

    It seems like Diana's bracelets are one of the most powerful artifacts in the DCEU, capable of repelling large quantities of focused energy and stopping Ares' all-out frontal assault.

    I'll post more after I process the movie a bit.
     
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  2. JadeOwl Brown Belt

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    I'm itching to open that spoiler tab, but I have to keep strong until I see the movie tonight.
     
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  3. pinkybrief Silver Belt

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    her thighs are so hypnotic
     
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  4. Horse Style Red Belt

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    You had me at..

    ..Dragon Ball Z and Super Saiyan Amazon. You tell me right now she fired a Kamehameha and I'll be out the door within minutes to buy tickets
     
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  5. John Wang YOU WANT GET FACK, BEN??!

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    Exactly!!
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  6. John Wang YOU WANT GET FACK, BEN??!

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    HNNNNGGG any upskirt shots of Gal during the movie?!
     
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  7. Tobago Jones #HalaWales

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    Glad to hear the film is actually good, hopefully it does well in the box office.
     
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  8. MMA since 1993 ____________

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    That's awesome. I was hoping this one was good.
     
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  9. pinkybrief Silver Belt

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    a lot more of that on the movie haha

    plus sicks moves that BvS WW didn't have
     
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  10. pinkybrief Silver Belt

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    how come batman didn't know about WW, I mean didn't they teach that in school that WW saved the world war?
     
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  11. John Wang YOU WANT GET FACK, BEN??!

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    Wait you're saying a lot more of this in the new movie??
     
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  12. MMAmathwiz Blue Belt

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    Its funny that people decide a movie is good when people tell them its good and not when they actually see it.
     
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  13. MMAmathwiz Blue Belt

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    Oh Shit, RT ratings at 97%. Might have to skip this one.
     
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  14. pinkybrief Silver Belt

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    I thought it was done with an electric cello

     
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  15. loyalyolayal Double Yellow Card

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    Was it because the bar was set so low for dcu movies that making a mediocre one made it seemed outstanding?

    No, I've never clicked the spoilers. And my wife hates me for being a misogynist. She blames Bill Burr.
     
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    2 of the 7 or 8 negative reviews say the movie is not "feminist" enough for them. One flat out says she was hoping for more misandry.

    These are "negative" reviews in RT but most people would consider these ringing endorsements for the movie. Me included.

    Finally a female led movie, with a female director, with a 100m+ budget, and it's GOOD, yet for these people it's still not enough. All they can do is REEEEEEEE
     
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  17. Myrddin Wild Lets enjoy our time together!

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    Buffy the Vampire Slayer > all those
     
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  18. RollSonnenRoll I ain't never had too much fun

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    In a world of endless internet porn and instahoes and still that hungry smile might be the hottest damn thing I've ever seen.
     
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    Well, shit. Positive critic reviews are one thing but Dragon has spoken. Gonna have to be excited for this movie now.
     
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  20. Anung Un Rama The Right Hand of Doom

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    Awesome! I felt this was going to be great at the beginning and my confidence had faultered; nice to see a trusted source give it a positive review. I'll check it out this weekend.
     
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