Winning and Ring to Cage Knuckle Guards Mini-Review

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  1. StRatoCastR Gear Tester/Reviewer

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    Hey Guys/Gals, I figured I'd change up the recipe on my reviews just a bit.
    Here we will go over 2 brands of knuckle guards: the NG-2 Made by Winning and the R2C Knuckle Guard 2.0.

    I was always curious on knuckle guards and why people use them. Im sure many of you have the same question or skeptical atleast on how they perform. Well, I'll be going over 2 different brands and maybe one of them sounds right for you, or maybe you will do without. Lets break down the brands.

    Winning NG-2:
    10mm thick
    Soft gel/latex mix (Latex goes across/over knuckle area)
    Encased by a stretch acrylic wool
    4 1/4 inches long
    Stretch band across the palm

    Ring to Cage Gel Knuckle Guard 2.0
    9 mm thick
    Pure Gel mix
    Encased in a neoprene shell
    4 1/2 inches long
    neoprene palm with matching finger holes

    Review:

    Winning NG2:

    Fit: The NG-2 Is remarkable soft, the knuckle guard completely sits flush on the knuckles, its very malleable for lack of a better word. Very soft, The major downside is the stretch acrylic band that goes across the palm. It makes the palm way too bulky and its like adding another grip bar almost which is retarded and pointless, I plan on cutting that part off and resewing it for a MUCH better feel. People say these shift in the gloves... I think if you my hand wrapping method you will have 0 shift.

    Protection: Very Soft, very protective, very absorbent! This will make cheap gloves on the bag/mitts tolerable. Second it will breathe new life into old gloves where the padding is starting to give way like my 2.5+ Year old red Cleto Reyes. They honestly feel amazing, like a soft marshmallow resting across the knuckles. Very protective. I think for people that like Reyes or a non-protective glove but like the construction/craftsmanship this is what you are looking for to add that in.

    Practicality: For spacious 14oz and above these will work beautifully, FORGET using them in fight gloves, I tried all my fight gloves with these things on, cant fit at all, If I did manage to fit in them my fist was awkward and out of place. Guys with big hands forget it... You need small hands to fit these inside the gloves with wraps.

    Weight: 1 1/8th oz

    Price: $15 US + Shipping off Rakuten

    Overall: Great guard, just its too tight of a fight in small gloves and the lowest it will probably fit is a spacious 14oz. I think if you spend a little more money and skip these it will be better in the long run. But if strapped for cash and you already bought gloves these are definitely a worthy investment! Very light at 1+oz you wont be adding much weight.





    Ring to Cage Knuckle Guard 2.0

    Fit: I think these sport a much more user friendly design. You get perfect placement everytime without messing with it. The finger holes need a little bit of stretching overtime that comes with periodic use. Again like the NG-2 there is a palm area which just makes the palm bulky. I cut mine out completely and just kept the finger sleeves as the way to hold my guard and its a perfect fit. Again, because of the sleeves this will definitely not move at all!

    Protection: These are pretty absorbent. I would not put it on par with the NG-2 I think the latex layer on the NG-2 make it far more comfortable and allow it to sit picture perfect. But in the R2C guard it does well with dispersing shock and absorbing albeit not as well as the NG-2 in this department. The trade-off is for beginners/novices the R2C has gel over the meaty part of the fingers as well so if you aren't landing correctly or just learning.

    Practicality: I think these are a tad more practical than the NG-2 on design/fit alone. Still need roomy 14oz+. I think those that wrap different will have 0 issues with guard shift. These are bigger but slightly lower profile. Again, big handed guys beware, not sure if these will fit.

    Weight: 2oz

    Price: $29.95 + Shipping

    Overall: Good guard, more beginner friendly but they don't sit as flat or mold to your hand as well. The gel feels more dense. 7/8ths ozs heavier and a steeper price tag. Im a big fan of the finger sleeves, holds the guard well. Again these will breathe life into gloves that need some aid in terms of protection.




    Conclusion
    I would invest into a better set of gloves I think overall. I understand people cant drop 250+ on a pair of winnings but there are a lot of great brands out there that over very good protection. Maybe not on the level of Winning, but bang for your buck scroll through the forums you will find people recommending different brands like Hayabusa, GG, R2C MiMs, GFG, etc that don't carry a hefty tag.

    If you already invested in gloves and aren't QUITE happy and just need a LITTLE more protection/absorption then by all means invest into a knuckle guard. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 29.95 EVERLAST WAL-MART SPECIALS. GO OUT AND SPEND SOME CASH ON A REAL SET OF GLOVES. If you don't have the capital go give blood get your 35 bucks and save it, do it 1-2 weeks later again!

    Hope this helps!


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  2. shihtzu Purple Belt

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    Awesome review bro!

    The new R2C are made wiser than the older model. Though 2oz. seems a bit heavy to me. Let we say you are going to use them with some 12 oz. gloves, 2 oz. for the guards, 1.5 for the wraps. Almost 16 oz. On the other hand Winning are over 1 oz. either.

    Just as you said - investing in good gloves is much wiser. One can get Tokushu, they will protect way better than most of the gloves + guards imo
     
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  3. Minowafanatic Black Belt

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    Winning NG2s are great, dont personally have a problem with the palm, never really noticed it. There's hardly any gloves I'd hit the bag with, and not want to use NG2s under my wraps to feel safe. From the review, the pricing, the level of protectiveness and their weight, it doesn't seem like there's any credible reason to pick the R2C over the Winning.
     
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  4. t0nym4c White Belt

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    Thanks for the review. I am going to pick up some Winning NG-2 for my sore knuckles now!
     
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  5. MEGAhorse Purple Belt

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    Nice comparison review
     
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  6. Parks2306 White Belt

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    Great review, I also don't have a problem with the palm on the NG-2. I can also fit them in 8 and 10 oz winning gloves without much of a problem.
     
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  7. StRatoCastR Gear Tester/Reviewer

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    You need NG-2 in winnings?
     
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  8. codek Orange Belt

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    Nice reviews. I like how R2C has the finger holes, great idea.

    Here is the thread where Strato goes over his wrapping technique.

    http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f16/stratocastrs-guide-how-wrap-2570809/

    I had a question, I have the NG-2 and have a hard time keeping the guards on my knuckles. Every time I slide my wrapped hand in my glove, the compartment squeezes the NG-2's back to the back of my hand.

    Where do you insert the NG-2 to keep them from slipping? Before step 9? After step 11?
     
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  9. StRatoCastR Gear Tester/Reviewer

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    Codek, after the completion of step 7 actually. So before you start to interlace between the fingers
     
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  10. codek Orange Belt

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    Thanks again Strato! I will try it out for my next workout.
     
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  11. dat1978 Purple Belt

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    i completely agree with the feel of the palm with the ng2's. i hated how it added so much material to the palm side. so much in fact that i only ever used them 2 or 3 times before putting them away for good. just have them sitting in my equipment box now.
     
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    Yeah I think I'm gonna cut the band off and sew it shut the wraps hold it in place anyhow. No need for redundancy.
     
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  13. Parks2306 White Belt

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    Right now I have a little bit of a hand injury so I use them. When my hands are healthy I don't need them but I use them just for the added protection, more of a mind thing than anything.
     
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    Hmm.. cutting the band off doesn't sound like a bad idea. Most peoples knuckle guards are sponges and they dont have bands. Good idea
     
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    yep... the band on the NG-2 doesn't make much sense to me or the neoprene palm on the R2C.
     
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    I'll take those off your hands :)
     
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  17. StRatoCastR Gear Tester/Reviewer

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    Just cut the band off, problem solved.
     
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  18. machado454 White Belt

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    What you think if the NG-2s are wrapped with gel side over the knuckles?
     
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