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Jon Jones is still young enough that if he keeps winning, he'll surpass Anderson Silva's record of consecutive UFC wins and legacy as Greatest of All Time.
People keep exaggerating Spider´s ground skills. Being the best at Chuteboxe on the ground doesnt mean u´re that great.
Pelé´s prime was during the obscure Vale Tudo years... People forgot about him...
Silva is one in human kind and I'm not being sarcastic. Watching his highlights on YouTube is what got me to follow the sport
yeah, but u forgot how he got schooled in Pride, by Takase & Chonan.before he lost to weidman, every fighter that was able to take and keep him down in the ufc got submitted.
yeah, but u forgot how he got schooled in Pride, by Takase & Chonan.
Anderson Silva is the greatest of all time.
Far surpasses Fedor, GSP, hell, whoever....
It sucks because no, I don't think we are going to see that talent again in our lifetime
ok. I feel UFC was a better org for him, I dont believe he would have had the same potential "GOAT" carreer in Pride, u couldnt "protect" ur carreer there.true, but he really came into his own in the ufc and when faced with adversity was still able to finish fights on the ground. I consider his ufc run until the weidman loss his prime, maybe that;s incorrect I dunno, maybe I'm biased since I got into mma basically right when anderson started fighting in the ufc. largely because of his highlights.
he´s still raw, fought nobody, true, but his footwork is impressive, and U could notice that he´s already working on his submission game..venom page is pretty crazy to watch.
still needs to be tested on tougher opponents though
but dude is crazy to watch
IMO Anderson was in his prime when he lost to Chonan but not to Weidman.true, but he really came into his own in the ufc and when faced with adversity was still able to finish fights on the ground. I consider his ufc run until the weidman loss his prime, maybe that;s incorrect I dunno, maybe I'm biased since I got into mma basically right when anderson started fighting in the ufc. largely because of his highlights.
yeah, but u forgot how he got schooled in Pride, by Takase & Chonan.
Fedor lacked TDD too lolHe's was great and his run was the 3rd greatest ever... but he lacked TDD and Fedor Emelienenko has the greatest run of all time
talkin´about Spider´s ground game, not about the fight.....
Chonan was getting destroyed when he landed a-once-in-a-lifetime submission. Respect to him, but let's not act like he does that everyday.
True but he made up for it with slick jiujitsu and subs.He's was great and his run was the 3rd greatest ever... but he lacked TDD and Fedor Emelienenko has the greatest run of all time
talkin´about Spider´s ground game, not about the fight.
look at the big picture: Spider was then a fake skinny WW, Takase & Chonan were realistically LWs.Name one fighter that trains to defend a flying scissor heel hook.
look at the big picture: Spider was then a fake skinny WW, Takase & Chonan were realistically LWs.
I actually respect these 2 fighters, solid fighters, often fought at openweight.. but u cant say Spider had a great ground game if he got schooled twice by 2 LWs.
The truth is: he had potentially the best ground game at ChuteBoxe.. But that cant be a measuring stick.
In Pride, Bas started to sell the idea that Spider had a great ground game.
I sincerely doubt that he saw Spider in Mecca or other Vale Tudo events in Brazil.
for sure,Chonan´s move was GOAT.I still disagree on the Chonan point, but overall a good post. Agree to disagree.