Will pure boxing gyms add a meaningful dimension to striking?

Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by spacetime, Apr 16, 2017.

  1. spacetime Purple Belt

    spacetime
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    125
    By that I mean beyond the sparring, sport aspect of Boxing? If you have no ambitions to compete, will a boxing gym still be a valuable expansion to ones striking?

    What has been your experience? Were you hooked by it or did you return to Kickboxing/Muay Thai?

    I can only realistically afford to do one at a time, and I'm concidering trying it out, but I guess I will have to stay a while to get the full package of training. I feel my progress in TKD- Kickboxing has stagnated and that makes me less inclined to continue. Pure Kickboxing is too similiar to my TKD club.
     
    #1
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2017
  2. Daniel Fox Green Belt

    Daniel Fox
    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2016
    Messages:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    934
    Absolutely! Boxing is very under rated.
     
    #2
    Yourstepdad likes this.
  3. spacetime Purple Belt

    spacetime
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    125
    How about the fighting apect of it? Can I keep my in and out- sparring style from Karate? Is there a lot of dogma in Boxing? The pro boxers sure don't look the same, so I'm curious if the fundamentals taught are more dogmatic.
     
    #3
  4. shincheckin Blue Belt

    shincheckin
    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2012
    Messages:
    659
    Likes Received:
    303
    what you learn from boxing is how to hit and not get hit.
     
    #4
  5. mooner100 Guest

    mooner100
    Boxing will add to your game way more if you have a background in TKD.
     
    #5
  6. spacetime Purple Belt

    spacetime
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    125
    How long will I have to train until I'm decent by recreational standards - can read my opponents, master the footwork, etc? Is the learning curve in boxing on average fast?
     
    #6
  7. spacetime Purple Belt

    spacetime
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    125
    The only thing I fear is that I pay a hefty amount of money and end up finding it one dimensional, sport geared. But I'm very competitive and would love to spar high level guys, to challenge myself. My TKD club is very, very weak. The students are either old or 15-16... Nothing in-between.
     
    #7
  8. panamaican Forum Moderator

    panamaican
    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    27,607
    Likes Received:
    12,300
    Yes. It will ad a meaningful dimension to your striking. With the exception of gloves, it's almost perfectly translatable to any other time you're fighting with your hands.

    How long it takes you get decent is about you. How fast you learn, how hard you train, etc.

    I don't know what you mean by one dimensional. It's boxing, not MMA. You're going to learn how to box, not grapple and not kick. There are no elbows, headbutts or knees (not legally). So, if you want those things, boxing isn't the right choice.

    Beyond that, it's extremely useful to know how to box even if it's just the basics.
     
    #8
  9. spacetime Purple Belt

    spacetime
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    125
    I mean if I will grow tired of the one dimensionality of only punching. I guess it will depend on how good I get at it.
     
    #9
  10. spacetime Purple Belt

    spacetime
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    125
    I would also like to know how hard the hardest sparring level is for recreational dudes. Will I experience full contact eventually? Aren't there insurance issues if a gym allows that?
     
    #10
  11. Higus Silver Belt

    Higus
    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    10,838
    Likes Received:
    3,062
    Location:
    Somerville, MA
    Intensity of the spar is going to vary from gym to gym. If you don't want to spar hard, let your partner or trainer know before hand.
    Sparring at full intensity is important to practice every now and then, even recreationally.
    Most gyms have you sign a waiver excusing them from liability. Still, most gyms do pay a good premium for insurance anyway.
     
    #11
  12. mooner100 Guest

    mooner100

    It depends on the individual, but generally the more work you put in, faster the process. Boxing gym environment also has a vibe of "show me what you got" type of attitude from the coaches. They'll show you basic stance, footwork, and punches but really that'll be about it until you can demonstrate it well in live sparring.

    I'd recommend right after they teach you the stance and basic punches, shadow box in front of your mirror at your house and keep drilling it over and over again. You'd be surprised how quickly you'll pick it up if you do that.
     
    #12
  13. Sano Brown Belt

    Sano
    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,920
    Likes Received:
    5,893
    Location:
    Denmark
    You would get absolutely smoked sparring at any decent boxing gym by newbies, let alone high level guys. It's not enough to just spar. It's a craft and you have to learn the fundamentals.
     
    #13
  14. spacetime Purple Belt

    spacetime
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    125
    We have shadow boxing in my TKD, and 60-65%% contact level in sparring. No headgear. Many times hands-only sparring. I've been there 2 and a half years. Given that... Is it completely out of the question to have me spar some dude semi contact first day? To get a feel for it? I'm expecting to be on the defensive mostly, but I don't believe an average dude would run over me..
     
    #14
  15. spacetime Purple Belt

    spacetime
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    125
    I've sparred a guy who did boxing in my TKD, hands only sparring. He was 50+ but still hits like a horse and moved very well. Not a scratch on me.
     
    #15
  16. mooner100 Guest

    mooner100

    I don't think it'd be a good idea unless it's touch spar. Using just hands require special attention to the fundamentals such as proper footwork.
     
    #16
  17. spacetime Purple Belt

    spacetime
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    125
    just because someone trains in something doesn't mean he's any good at it. I"ve seen pro boxers (very weak ones) in heavyweight divisions move like elephants.
     
    #17
  18. Sano Brown Belt

    Sano
    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,920
    Likes Received:
    5,893
    Location:
    Denmark
    Some 50+ year old guy at your TKD club who claims to have "boxing" experience is not a good measuring stick. Go to a good boxing gym and spar even an amateur. Put up a vid please.
     
    #18
  19. mooner100 Guest

    mooner100

    Sure, feel free to go at it. You are the one that asked and I just gave my take on it.
     
    #19
  20. mooner100 Guest

    mooner100

    I'm starting to get a feeling we are dealing with a daily "training troll"
     
    #20

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "fd5733925866a04e50edd70f38dfaa35"
monitoring_string = "603ac9fff68f23709f2a42bf5e29272b"