Will humanity ever reach attain unity?

[Sir Galahad]

I tried to bring Sherbros together with my P&M polls, but lately they've gotten intense and have divided us further.

The planet is fucked.

 

[JAEGERX]

Sure we just need a common enemy.

The world vs islam will unite the world for a bit.

that is racist

 

[Roca]

Some regimes have used the pretense of socialism to get the masses to help them overthrow a government so they can step into the power vacuum that is created. The competitive nature of humans makes socialism very difficult to institute.

Capitalists use the premise that anyone can succeed in the system when it's basically a pyramid that requires a large number of people making below average wages for each above average earner. Capitalism could work if people could limit their greed to only take as much as they need but that won't happen very often either.

I need to do more research at some point but I have to suspect that most of the failed socialist states were not truly socialist. The crux certainly lies in the implementation.

 

[Egelo]

that is racist

Logically and factually impossible but ok.

 

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[Roca]

so you are saying the answer is cocaine?

 

[NHB7]

Will we ever truly cooperate as one species striving for the same goals? Cease to fight each other, steal from each other and destroy our surroundings to line the pockets of a few?

Will we ever have equality, remove poverty and hunger from our existence?

I would like to believe so but it doesn't look good atm. If we ever do get to that point I think we still have a few rough patches between now and then

Possibly. When the end of the world comes, whatever that may be, we will unify to try to stop it. If we succeed, there will be a worldwide celebration and a hippyesque ideal of brotherly love. In that time frame, we will create win-win policies that benifit all humanity and general peace will occur for I'd guess a generation. But then as we lapse into comfort and we will go back to our usual divisions.

Freedom is a wonderful thing. But when you've had freedom your whole life and for several generations, people start to take it for granted. They've forgotten (or never knew) what it was like without it. Same is true of peace. World peace requires sacrifices people are only willing to make in the face of major catastrophe. When they make those sacrifices, they will realize that the reward of peace was worth it, until a generation or two later. When people grow up in world peace and never know a world without it, they too will take it for granted and then they will ask, "Why am I making all these sacrifices" and pull on the thread of the sweater that is world peace and just walk away.

 

[Roca]

Possibly. When the end of the world comes, whatever that may be, we will unify to try to stop it. If we succeed, there will be a worldwide celebration and a hippyesque ideal of brotherly love. In that time frame, we will create win-win policies that benifit all humanity and general peace will occur for I'd guess a generation. But then as we lapse into comfort and we will go back to our usual divisions.

Freedom is a wonderful thing. But when you've had freedom your whole life and for several generations, people start to take it for granted. They've forgotten (or never knew) what it was like without it. Same is true of peace. World peace requires sacrifices people are only willing to make in the face of major catastrophe. When they make those sacrifices, they will realize that the reward of peace was worth it, until a generation or two later. When people grow up in world peace and never know a world without it, they too will take it for granted and then they will ask, "Why am I making all these sacrifices" and pull on the thread of the sweater that is world peace and just walk away.

Paragraph 1: The apocalyptic event you're referencing better be damned fucking obvious. See: climate change.

Paragraph 2: I agree. Education will be paramount with an emphasis on history and WHY things are the way they are.

 

[NHB7]

Paragraph 1: The apocalyptic event you're referencing better be damned fucking obvious. See: climate change.

Paragraph 2: I agree. Education will be paramount with an emphasis on history and WHY things are the way they are.

Oh yeah, it's gotta be like alien invasion or asteroid. Climate change will eventually have the opposite effect of triggering wars for limited resources.

 

[Roca]

Oh yeah, it's gotta be like alien invasion or asteroid. Climate change will eventually have the opposite effect of triggering wars for limited resources.

 

[Pixelated Porn]

If everyone stopped killing each other and taking each other's shit that would be a step in the right direction but I don't think converting to Christianity is the only way to stop from killing and stealing. I would not consider myself a Christian but I have yet to kill anyone.

well, it is christian belief that murder and theft and stealing are all sins

"Christian but I have yet to kill anyone"
and no one said that it was a necissity

 

[Y'all Musta Forgot]

Will we ever truly cooperate as one species striving for the same goals? Cease to fight each other, steal from each other and destroy our surroundings to line the pockets of a few?

Will we ever have equality, remove poverty and hunger from our existence?

I would like to believe so but it doesn't look good atm. If we ever do get to that point I think we still have a few rough patches between now and then

No, this whole world is fucked. Everyone should be Vegetarian and there should be no world hunger. People should respect mother nature.

Imagine if a superior being to the human race started using us as their food. Karma

The human race needs to improve this is not sustainable. Also answer me this why do we need nuclear warfare?????

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Not if the WR is any indication, which BTW I was right about in that white supremacists are posting in there and trying to convert vulnerable posters into their bullshit.

 

[Roca]

Not if the WR is any indication, which BTW I was right about in that white supremacists are posting in there and trying to convert vulnerable posters into their bullshit.

War Room is a cess pool. It's unfortunate as I enjoy a good debate but it's not to be found in there.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

War Room is a cess pool. It's unfortunate as I enjoy a good debate but it's not to be found in there.

Everyone claimed I was just pulling the race card (I'm white btw), blah blah blah when there were some pretty obvious signals that many of the posters were white supremacists and I called them out for it. Now everyone who talked shot has to lick my nuts.

 

[Roca]

Everyone claimed I was just pulling the race card (I'm white btw), blah blah blah when there were some pretty obvious signals that many of the posters were white supremacists and I called them out for it. Now everyone who talked shot has to lick my nuts.

I don't even know what's going on with those guys TBH, can't tell who's trolling and who's a fanatical right-winger and who's just fucking insane.

 

[ralphc1]

Here is a list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states

Capitalism isn't perfect by any means, but it's the least bad system we have. And if we look back at the states where socialism has been enacted, those societies had huge income inequality. It was just done through corruption, greed, and it was owned by the political elites instead of the economic elites. And competition, while it has its drawbacks, actually seems to spur more innovation than anything else does. It creates necessity to advance or be crushed by the competition, so survival instincts make for a pretty powerful motivation to keep advancing.

The list provided is of countries CLAIMING to be socialist but none of them are actually socialist. They are mostly dictatorships.

True socialism, where nobody owns anything, but everyone owns everything has never been tried on a large scale with humans. It is common in insects but is not seen in mammals. Wild dogs probably come closest but they still maintain a hierarchy within a group and compete with other groups.

Humans struggle to be different. Nobody is content to be average and want to find something that they are better at doing than someone else. Some pretty horrible people use money as the yardstick to judge their worth. The only way to amass a fortune is to take money from somebody else. Many successful businesses don't want to share the wealth with the employees that made it possible for them to make the money.

Some people like to display their wealth by wearing jewelry, overpriced clothes, shoes, driving expensive cars, eating at overpriced restaurants etc.

 

[Roca]

The list provided is of countries CLAIMING to be socialist but none of them are actually socialist. They are mostly dictatorships.

True socialism, where nobody owns anything, but everyone owns everything has never been tried on a large scale with humans. It is common in insects but is not seen in mammals. Wild dogs probably come closest but they still maintain a hierarchy within a group and compete with other groups.

Humans struggle to be different. Nobody is content to be average and want to find something that they are better at doing than someone else. Some pretty horrible people use money as the yardstick to judge their worth. The only way to amass a fortune is to take money from somebody else. Many successful businesses don't want to share the wealth with the employees that made it possible for them to make the money.

Some people like to display their wealth by wearing jewelry, overpriced clothes, shoes, driving expensive cars, eating at overpriced restaurants etc.

It's sad because we have plenty for everyone, or we can let a few take the vast majority and the rest of us fight for scraps.

 

[ralphc1]

Cmon man, christianity is fine but wtf are christian ideals? Because if you go by what is laid out in the bible there is a lot of fucked up shit in there, and if you go by a revised modern interpretation that most followers agree are the good parts then you can probably include most major religions.

If not being a douchehole is the main christian ideal you're shooting for then yeah that would probably work.

One only has to look at the history of the Christian religion to see how people twist it and split off into different sects every few hundred years thinking they have a "better" interpretation of the scriptures.

 

[ralphc1]

It's sad because we have plenty for everyone, or we can let a few take the vast majority and the rest of us fight for scraps.

Keeping the masses fighting for scraps keeps the rich in power. It reminds me of the scene in Braveheart where the Scottish nobles were more interested with claiming the Scottish throne than uniting to fight the English. It's much easier to divide people than to unite them.