Wilder vs Ortiz close for Barclays in October

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Who wins and how, Wilder or Ortiz?

Poll closed Sep 26, 2017.
  1. Wilder by KO

    41.0%
  2. Wilder by decision

    6.6%
  3. Ortiz by KO

    41.0%
  4. Ortiz by decision

    4.9%
  5. Al Haymon is protecting Wilder from some other opponent

    6.6%
  1. Marc A

    Marc A Being broke is being dishonest

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    Nice foresight
     
  2. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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  3. Strange King

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    Ill eat crow but wilder was exposed. He only has power and its tremendous power
     
  4. Seano

    Seano Hands of bone

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    eh, thats not fair. He wouldn't have survived that fight if he was all power. His technique is sloppy for sure but he wouldn't have survived a smart fighter like Ortiz with just power.
     
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    Strange King Strange Music

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    He dodge most of those punches with his length. there was one moment where he almost ran backwards. Im really not trying to talk shit on him. but without his natural gifts he wouldnt be anything special. His length will make it hard for anyone to him and his reach will make it easier to hit people. Thats not a knock you used what you got but skill wise we seen that he doesnt have alot
     
  6. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Take away 99% of athletes natural gifts and theyre no one. Thats a silly argument.
     
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    Not really. it was easy to see who the better boxer was saturday night. but either way he deserves props for that chin and heart to finish him. Im pumped if Joshua gets passed parker
     
  8. Seano

    Seano Hands of bone

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    Well, I'm not saying the guy is some boxing genius. I just think people sell him a little short. If a guy has massive reach, he should use it. Thats why I liked that he brought Breland into the mix. I think he's a guy who can do a little bit of everything but is not special at anything. I agree his power makes a big difference but pure power rarely wins fights at the top level.
     
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    nac386 Gold Belt

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    People sell him short because he looks a bit goofy at times. But he really did a little bit of everything last night, and the finishing shot was an uppercut from the inside. I think it's time for people to stop being bitchy about Wilder and give him some credit.
     
  10. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Yes, really.

    Literally every athlete is using their natural abilities.
     
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    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Theyre all so fucking butt hurt that Ortiz, a highly decorated, highly skilled boxer wasnt able to counter Wilder’s windmills lmao.

    “The first time Wilder fights a real boxer hell get put to sleep when he tries that!”
     
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    Dr. Shoemaker ****BOILERPLATE**** Platinum Member

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    His upper and lower torsos aren’t talking to each other right now.
     
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    LogicalInsanity Gold Belt

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    Yea no kidding.

    and TBH, this is one of the reasons why I wasn't completely sold on Wilder, because of his goofy/uncoordinated technique at times.

    I've used this analogy before, but sometimes he resembles a baby giraffe first learning how to walk.

    It's times like this where boxing fans can be the absolute worst....

    feeling the need to nitpick about everything.

    after last Saturday, I learned several things. Wilder proved that he can battle through adversity, take a punch (punches), keep his composure and finish opponents, even dangerous ones.

    And Luis Ortiz is for real. He'll give anyone in the HW division fits.
     
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    LogicalInsanity Gold Belt

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    I picked Ortiz by decision or late round stoppage. and in round 7 it looked like I was going to be right. LOL..

    Wilder proved me wrong. Wilder is legit. anyone who says different is essentially a stupid fu*k
     
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    Thats how I describe Khan when he gets whacked.
     
  18. The Can Opener

    The Can Opener Brown Belt

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    Wilder hits harder than anyone else in the sport and he only weighs 214 pounds.

    I still can't wrap my head around that shit.
     
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    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    That leverage is serious business.
     
  20. The Can Opener

    The Can Opener Brown Belt

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    It's almost like he has the same straight right that Diego Corrales had. That lanky point A to point B with no curve at all piston shot. Doesn't LOOK like a fight ender but you get hit and don't even know what the fuck happened.

    May he rest in peace.

    If Wilder can improve a couple other punches he'll be a damn murderer.
     
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