Why Rizin and KSW only have 4 to 5 events a year?

[CDF47]

Sakakibara says he want to hold about 20 events (4 big events, 4 mid-size events (same level as Rizin 12), monthly small-size events) next year.

Wow, they must be doing well if that is their plan. Would love to see it.

 

[CDF47]

Yeah, he's actually serious about this, the news is already out on Yahoo headlines. He gave an interview explaining that starting in 2019, RIZIN would consist of 3 pillars/arrows:

4 large scale shows at Saitama, considering the slowly but steadily increasing attendance figures at the venue he aims for an eventual goal of 25000 on NYE 2019

4 mid scale shows on the level of RIZIN 12, designed for venues with a capacity of ~5000. Called RIZIN 12 a successful test run of that concept.

12 small scale shows with cards designed for venues on the level of Korakuen Hall, which would mean for a capacity of ~2000

Can't wait.

 

[under_t]

Yeah, he's actually serious about this, the news is already out on Yahoo headlines. He gave an interview explaining that starting in 2019, RIZIN would consist of 3 pillars/arrows:

4 large scale shows at Saitama, considering the slowly but steadily increasing attendance figures at the venue he aims for an eventual goal of 25000 on NYE 2019

4 mid scale shows on the level of RIZIN 12, designed for venues with a capacity of ~5000. Called RIZIN 12 a successful test run of that concept.

12 small scale shows with cards designed for venues on the level of Korakuen Hall, which would mean for a capacity of ~2000

Honestly, I don't trust what Sakakibara says.
It's impossible Rizin to hold 20 events per year unless they merge DEEP.

 

[Asurah]

Yeah, he's actually serious about this, the news is already out on Yahoo headlines. He gave an interview explaining that starting in 2019, RIZIN would consist of 3 pillars/arrows:

4 large scale shows at Saitama, considering the slowly but steadily increasing attendance figures at the venue he aims for an eventual goal of 25000 on NYE 2019

4 mid scale shows on the level of RIZIN 12, designed for venues with a capacity of ~5000. Called RIZIN 12 a successful test run of that concept.

12 small scale shows with cards designed for venues on the level of Korakuen Hall, which would mean for a capacity of ~2000

I get the feeling he might be preparing a plan to attempt survival post-FujiTV, he hasn't seemed confident in their ability to get their ratings up. I don't see 20 happening though, that's going to be a ONE level promise failure.

Honestly, I don't trust what Sakakibara says.
It's impossible Rizin to hold 20 events per year unless they merge DEEP.

Well DEEP already basically gives RIZIN whatever fighter they want. The only way I realistically see them hitting 20 events is if they start lending their name out to regional promoters similar to what Shooto and KOTC do

 

[WarriorPoet1]

can't launder millions of shady money if you org, doesn' make that much

 

[Danespina]

Sakakibara says he want to hold about 20 events (4 big events, 4 mid-size events (same level as Rizin 12), monthly small-size events) next year.

20 events would be way too much imo and perhaps end up destroying the product.

 

[lukeuidswords]

20 events would be way too much imo and perhaps end up destroying the product.

Settle down

 

[Danespina]

Settle down

Rizin should settle down lol. Build up more gradually.

 

[under_t]

20 events would be way too much imo and perhaps end up destroying the product.

I think Fuji TV will broadcast only 4 big events.

 

[Danespina]

I think Fuji TV will broadcast only 4 big events.

As long as the big 4 can maintain their quality I guess it could be okay. But I worry that if you give each small Rizin show even just 1 name to help sell, it would eventually add up, and prevent them from delivering stacked cards.

 

[null]

No way Rizin can do 20 events in a year. They don't have the roster even if they borrow talent from friendly organizations. The last card Rizin FF 12 was barely deep enough to even be a card and that was with only 7 MMA bouts supplemented by 5 kickboxing bouts. I enjoy the Rizin cards for what they are, but that's way too ambitious. Maybe they can do 6 to 8 cards in a year realistically.

 

[Danespina]

Only gap where I feel like we needed another Rizin event was January to May. I think they could have put one somewhere in between those months.

 

[InfinityLens]

But I worry that if you give each small Rizin show even just 1 name to help sell, it would eventually add up, and prevent them from delivering stacked cards.

This. If they want to increase they should do 6 shows next year (from 5 this year) and than increase by 1 a year from there (I think 1 monthly show is good for them).

Only gap where I feel like we needed another Rizin event was January to May. I think they could have put one somewhere in between those months.

If they want to do 5 shows a year (like they are doing now):

March
June
Aug
Oct
Dec (NYE)

Would keep their momentum through the year.

 

[skylolow]

There is always alot of talk in JMMA when talking about growth and it rarely comes to fruition. So I'll wait and see what 2019 looks like but I sure aren't holding my breath on 20 shows. Outside looking in it looks like they have hard time finding fighters/interesting match ups for 4 events.

 

[VIP1349]

They struggle to fill out the cards they do have. Rizin hasn't taken off or been a hot spot like people thought.

And KSW seems content to have their two big stars Pudz and Mamed trade off on big shows until the end of time.

 

[strongstylekarate]

Waited for months and now KSW 45 is coming, oh please please KSW.

Make it a monthly event next year.