WHY does UFC not pad records?

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  1. IloveTHIS

    IloveTHIS Silver Belt

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    So current day UFC is not above letting CM fucking Punk fight. That means it's all about selling and making money. Titleshots go by $$ not ranking etc...

    So why does the UFC not do more record padding. Look at the HW division which has been in ruins for a very long time. Bring in a dozen 0-1 or 4-2 warm bodies and let some of the better guys destroy them. You get more fights, better records for the stars and worst case scenario you might end up with a new star
     
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    notori0us1 Banned Banned

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    The record padding is usually done before they come into the UFC
     
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    because this is a real sport...
     
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    The UFC want's to think that it's above padding records, even though they have fighters like CM Punk fighting an MMA reporter.

    There's no such thing as "UFC Level" anymore.
     
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    Padding records create boring fights without much action that would end quickly and when a guy fights 2 times a year when we're lucky, we don't want to waste those appearances on can crushing. Besides, padding records is a huge criticism MMA has of boxing and it's better to keep the power of being a critic. Maybe if UFC doubles its current buyrates and becomes fully mainstream, then maybe. However, I am not sure it's good for the winner of those fights because it conditions them against beatable foes and it doesn't push them to the maximum and force them to improve in each fight.
     
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    Because KSW & Bellator pay Heavyweights & Bantamweights what they are worth in relative draw.
     
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    That would be too obvious. Brooks had a special reason for being in the UFC. But they can’t just sign anybody. And legit HW don’t just grow on trees. These guys would only really be able to fight eachother. And people already complain about watered down cards. Doing that would only fan the flames.

    They can bring in guys like you suggested. But, just one at a time. With time in between each guy. The logistics are not easy. It sounds like more trouble than it’s worth. They do need to really search the feeder organizations for possible HW. But the sky is not falling yet. No drastic action is needed. Just a commitment to finding real possible UFC caliber fighters. Then sign the guys that look like they have the goods.
     
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    Because it's a small industry. There is not exactly a lot of guys doing it professionally. Atleast not enough to sustain a boxing style ladder system. MMA in all honestly has maybe thereabouts of 2,000 professional fighters i'd say, and I could be wrong, and it may be even less. MMA in it's history has probably had under 10,000 professional fighters since it began to exist, take part in it, in at least one match. It is a fairly small business in all truth.
     
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    This is a freakshow fight, not a record padding, it's different. Record Padding would have been taking guys like CM Punk, 20 of them or so, and having the top line of each division spend a few years running through them all - then maybe take a harder fight. Three easy fights, one hard - three easy, one hard - three easy, one hard. All of a sudden the guy has 3 credible fights out of 12.

    Besides, look at all the well deserved flack given to fighters such as Dan Severn (over 100 wins), Chris Justino (lots of opponents with terrible records, who's only fights were also against opponents with terrible records)), Fedor Emelianenko (It seems like he has a Brett Rogers for every Mirko), Hong Man Choi (who probably fought six worthy opponents), and Bob Sapp (who also probably fought six worthies).

    I think most paying fans only want to see the best vs the best, no midgrade.

    So, if any padding happens with record padding, it must be on free shows down the card, earlier in their career. Maybe it's okay to give a guy like Wanderlei or Shogun an easy fight, with the understanding that nothing's really on the line, he isn't going to advance in the rankings from the win, and we're all happy to see the guy we like... but if the other guy wins, a star is born! So, there's still something on the line.
     
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    Furthermore, many of the padders find themselves landing gigs real easy in boxing, while in MMA once you've lost several times, especially if you have a streak, people will just think you're crap and won't want to see any fight you're in. Boxing fans seem much nicer to their cans.
     
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    Saw these gifs in another thread. Wtf. Did this guy think he was Clay Guida level fighter?
     
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    I feel like you don't watch enough ufc to see they clearly do this often, there's been several guys they recycled with 1-4 or 2-5 ufc records who's unwritten job is to make new guys look cool. Godbeer 2-2 fought this weekend ffs and the only reason he's not 1-3 was DQ win.
     
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    UFC's success is mostly predicated on giving the fans what they want to see. The fights fans want to see generally happen.This usually works,but guys like Conor make so much money that he doesnt really have to do what they want when they want it done.But even when they were trying to push Conor to the top under favorable circumstances,that was to finally get him in there against Aldo which every mma fan wanted to see. They wanted it again but Conor had better options at that point.
     
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    best idea I've read on these boards all week.

    we need more squash matches!

    resulting in more finishes on the cards!

    everybody wins! I like it.
     
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    maybe because the more you pad the more you'll have to pay them.
     
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    they did

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    Um... The ufc has been padding records. Both by counting unsanctioned bouts and removing losses,, and by feeding draws favorable matchups, for years. So.....


    {<huh}
     
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    no reason to be padding records. this is supposedly the biggest MMA event in the world, no reason for this crap
     

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