When i stopped lifting weights my jiu jitsu skyrocketed, and i used to do only 1-2 exercises every week.
Those huge quads and butt cheeks from powerlifting aren't good for jiu jtisu, rope climbs and gi pull ups are perfect for every grappling sport.
Strong glutes/legs crucial for bridging and creating space against a heavier opponent if you're stuck.
No, sorry. It's not debatable in the least.
Say a set of twins starts training. Twin A trains 6 days per week for 90 min per class (9 hours a week). Twin B trains 4.5 hours of BJJ, and 4.5 hours of lifting.
Twin A will easily destroy Twin B in a competition matchup 9/10 times after probably 2 years of training. By 3-4 years I'd say 10/10 times. It's not even close. There is no argument here.
Now say Twin A cuts back to 5x a week and adds lifting? A different story.
Lifting is great and it will add a lot of benefits to your training. It will improve the quality of your training and reduce the chances of injury. But it will not make you better. Only mat time makes you better.
Actually it's completely debatable considering your whole analogy is opinionated.
More bjj will make you more technically proficient at bjj but it won't make you the better overall grappler, proof is the girls or skinny guys that been doing bjj for years longer than me (brown belts), are you telling me you never rolled with someone who wasn't very physical and purposely tonned it down a notch but in the back of your head you know you could explode out of everything?
Strength is a massive part of bjj, people talk about grip strength (rope climbs, rope pullups) feel the grip of someone who deadlifts over 400lbs no straps.
Bjj like any other sport athletes will do better and learn faster, just because Charlie has been playing basketball for 4 years doesn't mean he has a better jumpshot than David, who became more proficient in the jumpshot in two years.
It all depends on the person but everyone would benefit from being strong.
There's too many bjj hipsters greasing their beards, riding longboards claiming lifting weights holds no benefit that's my point, obviously bjj should be first, but strength is crucial that's not debatable
I like lifting, but its efficiency relative to improving grappling is pretty low for most people, unless you hit the juice.
If you are training grappling full time, it’s more beneficial to include significant non-grappling training, since your grappling time is already so high each week. For most people, however, not only is lifting not fun, the same amount of extra effort put into training more grappling instead will give better results overall .. particularly given that you have weight classes, and adding weight isn’t necessarily advantageous in competition.
I agree however I have rolled with 155lbs guys that are weak and 155lbs guys that are strong and the difference is massive, those guys would be in the same weight class.
Training like I do a modified 5x5 dropping down to heavy sets of 3 will yeild very little mass gain more so strength.
