Why do people want to believe that Jones & Silva are innocent so badly?

They got busted after a long winning streak and when they already had a legacy behind them. I had a hard time giving up on them too cause in my mind Anderson, Gsp , Jones and Fedor where up there as GOATS.

Not anymore , though.
Fedor and GSP have zero failed tests. Don’t lump them in with garbage such as JBJ and RoidSpider.
 
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No PEDS
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The pills (Tadalafil) Juicer Jones laughably blames his failed test on contained a 3rd banned substance called Tamoxifen that was NOT in his system.
…thankfully Twitter was on it:

That should’ve F*CKED Juicer Jones, but his high priced lawyer made it so the court couldn’t accept it b/c of the "sloppiness" of the penis pill manufacturer. *cough*payoff*cough*

Also the FACT that Juicer Jones’ fall-guy laughably submitted a receipt for the penis pills that included him buying f*cking CLOMIPHENE on it as well! LMAO!!!
…but did you see the part about where the receipt was dated to when they had ALREADY LEFT the state???
Mr. Blasich had initially provided to the Panel an invoice from All American Peptide for Tadalafil tablets dated 25 May 2016 and said to be the origin of the tablet taken by the Applicant (Juicer Jones). However, as he accepted, it could not in fact be so, because since it identified a purchase made after he had left New York (where he claimed they had been delivered) in his car to drive to Albuquerque.
& then one of my personal favorite parts. The court basically saying Juicer Jones is full of sh*t & his penis pill EXCUSE is bullsh*t:
The Applicant’s (Juicer Jones) evidence that he lit upon the Tadalafil as the source of the substances when he gratuitously told an employee at a local Max Muscle outlet that he had taken a "sex pill" and she then immediately identified that as the explanation was suspect given that there was no evidence that "sex pills" had ever been previously identified as containing such substances.

Also in USADA's own words: "the whole story told by the protagonists lacked the ring of truth, and instead, rather the indistinct sound of contrivance"

It’s abundantly clear now why USADA gave Juicer Jones the maximum penalty of 1 year suspension…


…Juicer Jones is GUILTY af, but had the $ & lawyers to weasel out of it.

Quotes are from the actual released court documents: http://ufc.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/Award-6-November-2016.pdf
 
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Victor Conte: Jon Jones’ Low Testosterone Levels Before UFC 182 ‘Highly Suspicious’
Read more at http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vi...2-Highly-Suspicious-80631#TmWsoeEKfmuuP2kx.99

Jones had his T/E levels measured on three occasions -- an extra test was ordered because his first sample was diluted -- as part of out-of-competition drug testing ordered by the NAC. His ratio in the three tests were 0.29:1, 0.35:1 and 0.19:1, well below the normal ratio (1.3:1) for an average African-American male, according to Conte. In addition, Jones’ testosterone levels in those three tests were 1.8 ng/mL, 0.59 ng/mL and 4.9 ng/mL; the average level for a male is 61.3 ng/ML.

Although the CIR tests would be able to detect if Jones had been using exogenous testosterone, Conte remains skeptical not only of the champion’s low overall levels, but of the great variance in Jones’ T/E ratios as well.

“If they see a deviation in the T/E ratio of greater than 30 percent, there is something up. That’s a red flag,” Conte explained. If you look at the numbers for Jon Jones, his was basically an 80 percent deviation.


“These are highly suspicious for Jon Jones, in my opinion,” Conte said. “This is the reason that sophisticated anti-doping officials do target testing. So based on what we see here, my opinion is Jon Jones should be on a very short leash and should be random tested here until they sort out why he has these anomalies.”

That Jones’ levels were as low as they were should raise a red flag, according to Conte, because the use of performance enhancing drugs could be a potential culprit.

The question is what was suppressing his testosterone production for that period of time. Something caused it to go down, and I do not believe it was overtraining,” Conte said. “Exogenous testosterone and other steroids in a period of time, depending on dosage and method of administration, can completely shut your testosterone and epitestosterone levels in urine to 0....The levels being low there can be many explanations. [People say], ‘Well maybe it’s because he was taking cocaine.’ There’s no solid science out there that shows cocaine lowers testosterone.

"Typically without using drugs with black males, 50 to 150 would be the normal range [for testosterone], compared to Jon Jones came back his highest level was 4.9. Even on the low end he’s only got 10 percent of that. It’s really, really low,” Conte continued. “It wasn’t just that one time. The first part of December when he tested again the second time it’s still relatively low. Those are in my opinion just highly suspicious, very, very low levels.”

CIR will detect testosterone synthesized from soy phytosterols. Testosterone synthesized from cholesterol is undetectable. Testosterone synthesized from soy phytosterols is the most common prescription testosterone because it is cheaper to produce. However, any skilled chemist can synthesize testosterone from cholesterol. So this could explain why he passed CIR (that's assuming CIR was undertaken) yet still has "highly suspicious" levels.
 
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They are both great and the way things are now, most everyone is doping yet we glorify guys as clean because they are good enough at it to not get caught. These two are amazing talents and the skills they've brought into the octagon are only possible with immense talent, training, and creativity. It's not lost that guys with less melanin are more excused by the fan base. Randy Couture and Dan Henderson both abused TRT. Fedor fought in an organization that let fighters dope, working out of a country that endorses their national athletes using PEDs. Brock is one of the most popular fighters ever despite obvious use since the beginning. Fans know these two are among the best talents of all time and the real ones aren't naive enough to think guys like GSP, Fedor, Aldo, McGregor, etc. never used "tainted supplements."
 
Just blind Nuthangers dangling off of Jones sack.

Jones is about as clean as a used gas station toilet after a fresh rally of truckers passed by.
AHA!

"Fresh" rally of truckers you say?
That sounds pretty clean to me. Relatively speaking. So you're admitting that Jones is relatively clean.
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Because they don't want to accept they're cheaters. They want to believe they're both uniquely gifted, top tier talent who didn't have to resort to using/abusing PED's to get the job done.
 
Jon Jones pop for the same drug that his brother was caught in another sport

this tell you a lot about the genetic charade , they have the same cheaters gene DNA
 
Jones is not innocent he is just stupid. Unfortunately is also the greatest fighter probably anyone has ever seen.
 
Evidence against Jones
  1. Immediately starts getting popped after USADA moves in
  2. Multiple fighters testify that he hid under random drug testing
  3. An excuse for failing first drug test is dick pills... after it became publically known that dick pills can cause drug test failure (Anderson Silva)
  4. Video evidence of blatant and frequent in-ring cheating
  5. Accounts of using PEDs in front of other fighters
  6. Pops hot for drugs that other fighters from his gym popped hot for
Again, what are the odds that in a sport where a significant number of athletes dope, a guy with so much evidence against him is innocent?

Evidence against Silva
  1. Immediately starts getting popped after USADA moves in
  2. Fails 2 drug tests (what's the minimum failures needed to convince you guys? Is Josh Barnett innocent in all his cases too?)
  3. Photograph with needles associated with steroids in his house
  4. The first excuse for failing a drug test was dick pills
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You people are fucking ridiculous

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Am I supposed to be able to read what is on those boxes in the background or something? What is it?
 
"You people are fucking ridiculous"

This is exactly why. Its hilarious to see yall cry
 
No one believes either guy is innocent of anything other than that idiot Dozer ....
 
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