Why Conor vs. Mayweather is a mismatch in Conor's favor

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  1. death_by_teeps Blue Belt

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    I've noticed discussing Conors chances the last couple of days that many sherdoggers are very ignorant about the reality of aging boxers, especially ones coming out of a retirement.

    I hate to say it, but Floyd Mayweather Jr. is punch-drunk. Before you hate on me for saying that, do a search and you will find many making that observation in 2015. And these aren't haters, they are generally people saying "you know, Floyd hasn't taken much punishment, but does it seem to you he is punch-drunk"? People who know Floyd has commented that although he is crafty defensively in the ring, he spars very hard.

    It is highly suspected that there is a strong genetic link regarding CTE, and here Floyd is unlucky also. Floyd Sr. is clearly punch-drunk, and Roger Mayweather, his uncle, Floyd says in his 50's seems like he is in his 80's, wandering around lost. Floyd retired because of this reason alone.

    So you have an old, inactive for 2 years, outsized, punch-drunk Floyd Jr. coming back to face an absolute killer in his prime. Even odds makers have Conor with a 15% chance to win, so those here who talk about Conor vs. Mayweather being a joke should put some money down then on Floyd and make a tidy profit.

    Most seem swayed by Floyd's perceived lack of abuse sustained in the ring, but if you look objectively at his interviews, his speech patterns have changed. It is also telling that he had some trouble coming back after his first retirement, making weight, and a couple of majority (not unanimous) decisions. I don't think the 49-0 record is relevant anymore.

    I hate to say this also, but my favorite fighter, Cro cop, I noticed some signs of possible CTE in his interviews before he moved from Pride to the UFC. Guys with CTE, their reflexes are shot, their reaction times greatly diminished, and it can happen quickly. I didn't even noticed CC, Eddie Sanchez was landing on him, and just a year prior Cro Cop was dodging every punch thrown at him. The brain is flexible, and some guys do recover and I think CC did go on to sort it out and have a late career resurgence.

    Floyd will be almost 41 years old by the time he fights Conor, almost 3 years removed from his last fight. It is rare for a boxer to maintain his chin, his cardio, his strength, his reflexes, into his mid 40's. And as mentioned before, Floyd's dad and uncle show signs at early ages of CTE, and there is a strong genetic link. What's worse is that Floyd's defensive style relies heavily on quick reflexes, he is not a power puncher type of fighter that typically can rely on a short fight.

    This is not a troll thread. We saw what happened to Anderson as he aged, his dodging defense gone, getting KO'd by Weidman and knocked down by Pissbing. This is my honest opinion, no offense intended towards Floyd, and I am sure if someone bothers to look objectively at it they will see where I am coming from. Those sherdoggers who have been polluting the forums with idiocracy, saying Conor has zero chance and calling anybody a troll to question that, they are doomed for a humiliating spanking at the hands of father time, just like Floyd will receive. Fighters think they have one more good fight left, coming back from retirement a 2nd time never bodes well.

    People questioning if Floyd has CTE: https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/3h1vhp/does_anyone_else_think_that_floyd_seems_slightly/

    Floyd discussing his relatives with CTE: http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/8/1...iorating-health-has-influenced-my-decision-to

    Genetic Link being studied: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...71ee10e9bc3_story.html?utm_term=.b373bb5d0f83

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    I can’t decide if his speech is slower in this video or if I’m just looking for it? He’s very slow and deliberate in what he’s saying, at least at the start, it doesn’t sound natural.

    Posted by Dave_Smith on Aug 14, 2015 | 11:39 AM
    Agreed. In the past he’s talked so fast I’ve had trouble following. Now it’s the opposite.

    Posted by Into the Void on Aug 14, 2015 | 1:53 PM
    He definitely seems way more slow and deliberate in the way he talks, I’ve noticed it for awhile now, hopefully I’m just exaggerating it though.""
     
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    I bet Mark Messier is a better hockey player than Lebron James.

    I'd bet money on it too.
     
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    So Vegas and hundreds of pros are out of their minds, but you... you are stone cold sane?

    And a treat for you.

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    If you really believe this, then you should link your betting slip. With Conor being as much as an underdog as he is and your confidence in him winning, I would think you would put at least a 5 figure bet down on him to make that easy money. Show us your bet when the fight comes.
     
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    Has he been in the gym in two years? Speed is always the first thing to go, but Floyd at 1/2 speed should still have the angles and footwork to beat McGregor.

    I'm truely wondering if Conor gets Freddie Roach to coach him, or does he stick with Kavanagh?
     
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    Floyd discussing CTE:
    I'd love to, but I am broke at the moment.
     
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    Jesus....You fucking guys need to quit this shit.


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    http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/8/1...iorating-health-has-influenced-my-decision-to
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    I can’t decide if his speech is slower in this video or if I’m just looking for it? He’s very slow and deliberate in what he’s saying, at least at the start, it doesn’t sound natural.

    Posted by Dave_Smith on Aug 14, 2015 | 11:39 AM
    Agreed. In the past he’s talked so fast I’ve had trouble following. Now it’s the opposite.

    Posted by Into the Void on Aug 14, 2015 | 1:53 PM
    He definitely seems way more slow and deliberate in the way he talks, I’ve noticed it for awhile now, hopefully I’m just exaggerating it though.
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    I don't think Floyd is punch drunk. He appears to talk and think normally during his TMZ segments, and that's the only thing I'v seen from him.
     
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    Fuck Freddie Roach. Why would he train with a guy that said he can't box?
     
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    And Anderson Silva was fighting Pissbing...
     
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    I agree 100% TS. Great analysis.

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    Really, the only thing your post shows is how pitiful the snake oil salesman McGregor is. You say he's a killer in his prime, yet he's challenging a miniature, punch drunk, old man. It's just about the money, not who is the better boxer. There are hundreds of active boxers who fight at 147 or 154, who would destroy McGregor in a boxing match...but only fighting Mayweather would get McGregor the payday he seeks. But, as old, small, and punch drunk as he is; Mayweather still beats McGregor all day.
     
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    Mayweather is not Mayweather anymore. When you retire with visible signs of punch-drunk, and fight nearly 3 years later, going to be 41, you are not the same person, not at all. Reflexes shot.
     
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    Come on MODS......this guy has been here 3 days (THREE F#@$%KING DAYS) and this is like his 20th moronic troll thread. Enough is Enough.

    What's Up With That?????????
     
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  20. Mr. Danger Waffles Gambling Money Has No Home.

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    Because he can't, & Freddie Roach can.

    You guys need to talk to some old timers that were into boxing. Ask em what they think of Conors head movement, footwork, and basically every facet, other than the counter left.
     
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