Who wins? Clean Jones or Igor Vochanchyn?

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  1. TimeToTrain Brown Belt

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    Igor would wreck clean Jones, especially in the ring.

    Also imagine if off roided Jones in the ring under Pride rules and a tourney in one night, open weight GP.

    1st round for 10 minutes, no fence to grab on, no fence to trap his opponents. The only thing he will have left are his eye pokes to save him. No elbows too.
     
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  2. Frank Johnson Yellow Card

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    Why did you even bother asking the question? You seem pretty adamant in your answer, so nothing that any of us can say will change your mind.

    And btw Jones would murk him easily. This is a guy that tapped to strikes from a one-dimensional fighter and was struggling to put away a Welterweight that'd been in a 90 minute fight just an hour earlier.
     
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    Do you really think Jones is GOAT still? Geez...
     
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    Lol. That has nothing to do with my analysis of the hypothetical fight YOU made up.
     
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    Igor has to be clean too I take it ? otherwise the debate is pointless - Jones would win if both are clean.

    Also of all the hypothetical match ups, why did this one come to mind ? A clean Jones, in PRIDE ring, fighting Shogun would be more intriguing no ? (again assumption both fighters fighting clean).
     
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    Igor is awesome, Jones is a cheater.

    But take off your nostalgia-glasses for a second and be real here, even clean Jones would wreck Igor.
     
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    We've never seen clean Jones. I can say with near 100% certainty that TurinaBones would maul Igor, but I cant make any projections about clean Bones.
     
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    clean igor? LoL. Clean pro fighters doesn't exist, you only have to be very carefull vs usada and pass the tests being on drugs (as ever the fighters did)
     
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    Clean Jones does not enter the ring/cage due to lack of balls and loses via DQ.
     
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    It doesn't matter if Igor taps to strikes, he could cry at Bambi and he'd still be badass. He competed for a long time bareknuckle with headbutts and all sorts of shit, fighting legit giants (e.g. that huge guy in the cage wearing spandex who looks a foot taller than him) when he's like 5'9.

    He couldn't beat Jones though. The reason is because his wrestling is disgraceful and tbh his grappling in general, despite some unreal submissions that were completely unexpected. If Jones takes him down he is like a tortoise on its back.
     
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    My point about him tapping was not questioning his toughness at all. Igor was a bad motherfucker. I was highlighting how he let a one-dimensional fighter like Coleman get to a POSITION where he could land those vicious knees, which Jones could absolutely do under PRIDE rules.

    Any sane person would've tapped to those knees, unless they had a soft spot in their hearts for brain damage.
     
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    Agreed. Jones off the juice is probably a decent fighter but not at vov's level.
     
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    Igor would fight smart and try and take Jones down. If he can he wins.
     
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    Clean Jones loses to Shayna Baszler...

    <{ohyeah}>
     
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    That's like saying that if Conor can put Roger Gracie in a rear naked choke, he will win.
     
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    Jones is GOAT
    If by some miracle he manages to get Jones down, he's tapping within a minute.
     
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    His grappling is not really on an elite level... He just has some Earnie Shavers tier heavy hands. He's also very short and stocky. Jon Jones would have an enormous reach advantage, it would look like Stefan Struve fighting an Oompa Loompa. I think it's a very unfavorable matchup for Igor. I think Vovchanchyn has a much better chance of taking out prime Anderson Silva than natty Jon.
     
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    Did you see what Rampage did to Igor?

    Complete clinic in obliteration.

    Body slammed Igor repeatedly, outstruck Igor repeatedly.

    Then finished Igor with a body shot... a body shot (on the ground).

    Looked like a Memphis drug deal gone terribly wrong.

    Jones toyed with Rampage, then smashed, gashed and just stopped short of strangling the life out of him. Igor would probably get much of the same treatment. Hoost low kicked Igor out of K1, oblique kicks from Jones would be a nightmare.

    Jones has too many weapons, Igor is a legend for good reason but only realistically had a few ways to win.

    Personally I'd have to pick "The King of New York" on this one.
     
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    I love Igor but JJ would wreck him. He would have a small chance of blitzing in and landing a bomb but thats not very likely..
     
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