Who was the best machado

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  1. Idonotbelieveit winning

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    jean popular choice or his older brothers ?
     
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  2. Habs fan White Belt

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    I was always told that Rigan was the 2nd best in the family. Only Rickson was better.
     
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  3. Old Man Black Belt

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    Jean Jacques has the best record in competition, and I always thought he was considered the most technical. Rigan is a big dude, so that makes him harder to deal with.
     
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    Jean Jacques only has 2 fingers on his left hand and is still considered one of the GOATs.
     
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    People in the family and extended family (Gracies and Machados, and their entourages) say Rigan. Based on anything that we can actually watch (i.e. competition), it's JJ.
     
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    JJ by quite a bit imo
     
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  7. Coconutwater Blue Belt

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    JJ would seem to be the most technical since he had to learn a style that offset his physical limitations. Rarely can you impose an athletic game when your left hand is malformed.

    I say JJ is also the best teacher, most and best pound for pound amongst the Machados. I wouldn't be surprised however if he was soundly beaten by Rigan or any of his other brothers though.
     
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  8. fittycentguard Orange Belt

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    Rigan is the consensus best Machado. As someone said, size does matter.
     
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  9. Bubblun Purple Belt

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    I don't know, but there is an old Carlos Machado instructional out there that in my opinion is the best bjj instructional ever.

    Honestly i can't believe one could get more technical than Carlos Machado.
     
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  10. Habs fan White Belt

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    I believe it was the dog brothers that had Carlos teach some ground work in their instructional video. How he taught the kimura from guard is by far the best I ever seen. Basically the side of the opponent's arm is glued to your chest. This way he cannot straighten his arm to defend. Works against strong guys too. So while I agree he is one of the best I seen on video when it comes to teaching ( only Rorion is probably better) but that doesn't mean he is the best Machado.
     
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    First time I have ever hear Rorion as a good instructor. I don't have an opinion either way just never heard that before. He does have an cool voice
     
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  12. nefti Red Belt

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    Straight ability and talent? Rigan. Most accomplished? JJ.
     
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  13. Spoonman7 Red Belt

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    Based on what is out there in terms of footage, Jean JAcques. But many have said that Rigan is the best. Not a whole lot of footage of him out there though
     
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    Rigan by armbar
     
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  15. Coconutwater Blue Belt

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    IMHO, Rorion Gracie is probably the greatest instructor on any subject of all time. His ability to teach Jiu-jitsu is unparalleled. Even Rickson Gracie said on Rogan's show that's Rorion is the best teacher he has ever seen. I completely agree and I don't even like Rorion that much. I do however respect him a lot.
     
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    Lets not get too crazy.
     
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  17. Coconutwater Blue Belt

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    Yeah..... but he's still a pretty damn good teacher...
     
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  18. 1tripz1 Orange Belt

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    A Gracie said a Gracie was the best teacher ever. Shocking.
     
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    When you consider Rorion and Rickson's history it is, they didn't speak for years.
     
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  20. nefti Red Belt

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    To be a great instructor you need great students, rorion has none
     
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