Who did you have winning Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder and how did you score it? It ended in a draw.

[It's-Only-Business]

Mayweather had money on so his opinion is bias, no?

And i know im in the minority but wilder doesnt get the credit he deserves here. A smaller athlete took it to a superior boxer outweighed by 20kg and nearly finished him.

Circular logic. Mayweddar is a boxing genius, so he knew Wilder's deficiencies, and Tyson's boxing ability (highly under-rated; especially his defense) so he put the smart money on Fury

 

[It's-Only-Business]

115-111 Wilder is a robbery because the intent was to rob Fury of his victory, not to score the fight accurately

highly under-rated post. *(and worthy of an end of the thread). This sums it up, perfectly.

 

[It's-Only-Business]

There is an argument that you can't take a Champion's belt , to beat a champion , you have to beat him.... and I still think Fury won , even under that criteria!

 

[GoldenAzazel]

Build that WALL send Alejandro back to Lady Gaga

Nice reference. I'm gonna go listen to some Lady Gaga now.

 

[Philtard]

That's why it's not a robbery as you yourself have said

Opinion

I had it fury but draw is fine

Every judge that scored the fights are opinion based on judging criteria. If 90% of people saw what they saw and a judges score is an essential opinion. Why are you even arguing?

 

[Philtard]

Honestly at this point they should do a damned phone in and tally the results of the public. 99/100 they are right.

 

[The Witcher]

Honestly at this point they should do a damned phone in and tally the results of the public. 99/100 they are right.

Strange logic as mayweather would have lost every decision, ever

 

[in the liver]

look at that smug shit "bwah haw haw one is engaged in pugilistic intercourse with a filly of decidedly bounteous secondary feminine upholsterings, what bawdy delights my media avocations afford"

 

[Hotora86]

https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-boxing-insiders-weigh-on-scoring--134267

Deontay Wilder-Tyson Fury - Boxing Insiders Weigh In on Scoring

By Lem Satterfield

After Saturday night’s WBC heavyweight title defense by Deontay Wilder, who scored two-knockdowns during a draw with lineal champion Tyson Fury, BoxingScene.com sought the scores of 14 boxing insiders.

The 6-foot-7 “Bronze Bomber” (40-0-1, 39 KOs) scored ninth and 12th-round knockdowns against the 6-foot-9 “Gypsy King” (27-0-1, 19 KOs) at The Staples Center in Los Angeles on Showtime Pay-Per-View.

Judge Robert Tapper scored the fight for Fury, 114-110, Alejandro Rochin had it for Wilder, 115-11, and Phil Edwards had it even, 113-113.

Mike Coppinger, RingTV.com (116-110, Tyson Fury)

Steve Farhood, Showtime (115-111, Tyson Fury)

Norm Frauenheim, 15Rounds.com (113-113)

It was a fight that exceeded expectations. Both fighters were a surprise. Nobody thought Fury would or could get up, especially for a 12th-round knockdown. Wilder is at his best when pushed to the brink of defeat.

Andreas Hale, Sporting News (113-113) - Although Fury was brilliant defensively, the early rounds were far from definitive and could have gone Wilder’s way off of sheer activity.

The two dramatic knockdowns saved Wilder from defeat on my card. This was far from a robbery and the right decision in the most important heavyweight fight on American soil since Lewis-Tyson in 2002.

Keith Idec, BoxingScene.com (114-112, Tyson Fury)

Kevin Iole, YahooSports.com (113-113)

I thought Fury was clearly the better boxer, but he wasn’t active enough. And while I vehemently disagree that Wilder won the first four rounds, I also disagree with the contention I’ve heard that Fury dominated those rounds. There wasn’t a lot to pick from in a lot of rounds.

Paulie Malignaggi, Showtime (115-111, Tyson Fury)

Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times (114-112, Deontay Wilder)

Dan Rafael, ESPN.com (114-112, Deontay Wilder)

John Raspanti, MaxBoxing.com (114-112, Tyson Fury) - I scored the fight for Fury. Other than the two knockdowns, I thought Fury controlled bout, utilizing his quick hands and feet.

Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com (114-112, Tyson Fury) - I had it 8-4 for Fury. I thought Fury out-boxed and at times outclassed him through much of the night, winning five of the first eight and splitting the last third of the fight. Its hard to get to five rounds for Wilder; it seems impossible to get to seven. Rochin has a similarly baffling score in Danny Garcia-Mauricio Herrera too.

Mike Rosenthal, BoxingScene.com (113-113) - I don’t believe that was a robbery, as Fury supporters are suggesting. Wilder definitely won rounds 10-through-8. It’s not a stretch to say that Fury won seven of the remaining 10. That makes it a draw.

Joe Santoliquito, RingTV.com (113-113) - I was surprised how nimble Tyson Fury was and how inaccurate Deontay Wilder was. There is no controversy here. Wilder's two knockdowns balances out Fury's points he accumulated by outgoing Wilder in portions of the fight.

Bob Velin, Premiere Boxing Champions (114-112, Deontay Wilder) - I had it for Wilder, the difference being the ninth and 12th, the 10-8 rounds. I had each guy winning six rounds. The reason I gave that many rounds to Wilder is that I liked his aggressiveness throughout the fight.

Though he missed a lot of punches, he was going after it. Wilder obviously hurt Fury at least twice. While I think Wilder was buzzed at least once, and was gassed the last few rounds, he was pressing the action and should’ve won by 12th-round KO.

Total: 6 for Tyson fury, 3 for Deontay Wilder, 5 even.

I'm not mad at the draw.
I'm mad at Alejandro Rochin who had it for Wilder 115-111.
Rounds 3 and 8 were 100% Fury. Rochin gave them to Wilder.
That is seriously shady.

 

[Marc A]

Every judge that scored the fights are opinion based on judging criteria. If 90% of people saw what they saw and a judges score is an essential opinion. Why are you even arguing?

The part claiming robbery

 

[Roids]

dan rafael demonstrating once again that hes a fat prick who knows nothing about boxing. talk about proving yourself to be a nonbrain hipster for the last 20 years. "boxing journalist"

Thats the impression I always had of that smug prick. What I find funny is that people like him know that 90% of fans and pro boxers disagree with their opinion yet are still convinced they are right. If you had wilder winning that fight especially by that score line, you are literally confessing you know nothing about boxing or are delusionaly biased.

 

[315MMAFighter]

Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder put on a very memorable fight. Who did you have winning and how did you score the fight? The judges scored the fight a split-decision draw.

Tyson absolutely won that fight

 

[Mga223]

Strange logic as mayweather would have lost every decision, ever

I had a guy argue with me that Pacman beat Floyd

 

[Philtard]

The part claiming robbery

I think in most cases they are attributing it to the one judges score card who had it 115-111 and they are using the word "robbery" as a vague descriptor of the incident.

In Laymans terms I honestly feel kinda the same. No it is not a traditional robbery, ie the other guy getting the nod. But it feels like it.

 

[PHATV]

You probably won't like this one either. Same as Rochin.
Wide for Wilder. 115/111.

Interesting. I don't care and I haven't seen it. I just figured Wilder isn't much of a boxer (my personal opinion) and might get boxed up going in to this one. I'm just glad it sounds like we at least had a competitive HW bout.
Was your card the same as Rochin, so you had 3 and 8 going to Wilder or you don't remember? Again, I haven't seen anything yet, don't care and you already gave your score, I'll have to see what I come up with next week. I'm sometimes off the majority and watch again and still think my score is correct, so...
It is subjective and that's how you get those scores. Now the 118-110 or whatever for Canelo in the first bout from Byrd was legit criminal, but many times it's the different angles/sides of the ring that can mean the difference in a couple or even a few rounds between judges. But many casuals don't allow for---or even know about that, for that matter.

 

[Roids]

Wilder did get boxed up..

 

[PHATV]

I'm not counting them as 10-8 rounds as I think they give out 10-8 rounds too easily in boxing and they don't give them out enough in MMA.

With that being said, Wilder unloaded and missed a lot of shots on a wobbly Fury, resulting in him gassing himself out and letting Fury come back. 10-8? No. 10-9? Yes.

Not sure if serious, but in boxing a round with a KD is 10-8, basically. You can't not count it as a KD or not score it 10-8. Wilder would have had to been close to stopped (ref leaning in watching) once before and once after the KD to get back to 10-9, something along those lines. Anyway,...

Speaking of, what about that Adonis fight where the clear, clean KD was not called a KD? That was crazy and would have been really crazy if it had any bearing on the scorecards.

 

[VenomCarnage]

Simple enough to figure this out.

12 round fight.

2 rounds were 10-8 for Wilder, so you have Wilder up by 4 points.

So to win the fight from there Wilder needs to win 4 rounds. People for the most part all agree that he won Round 2 so that is him on 5 points, Fury has 9 rounds left to win and therefore 9 points are still on the table. I personally fail to agree that Wilder didn't win a few other close rounds. People are selling this idea that Fury won almost every other round other than the two 10-8's, you clearly haven't watched much Boxing.

It's a matter of taste unfortunately. Forward pressure, power shots, keeping the pace etc. some people like that pressure style over a circling style where Tyson throws jabs.

Tyson won more rounds, I'm not denying that, he won a lot of the middle rounds. Unfortunately I cannot see how you don't score some of the first 5 rounds for Wilder. Scoring the first time around I had Wilder 4-1 up after 5 rounds. I had it 4-4 through 8 rounds. Round 9 was a 10-8 so I had Wilder 6-4 and then I gave Fury rounds 10 and 11 which had it tied up at 6-6. Wilder wins the last round 10-8 so he wins it by 2 points. 116-114 Wilder.

Wilder won in my opinion.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Simple enough to figure this out.

12 round fight.

2 rounds were 10-8 for Wilder, so you have Wilder up by 4 points.

So to win the fight from there Wilder needs to win 4 rounds. People for the most part all agree that he won Round 2 so that is him on 5 points, Fury has 9 rounds left to win and therefore 9 points are still on the table. I personally fail to agree that Wilder didn't win a few other close rounds. People are selling this idea that Fury won almost every other round other than the two 10-8's, you clearly haven't watched much Boxing.

It's a matter of taste unfortunately. Forward pressure, power shots, keeping the pace etc. some people like that pressure style over a circling style where Tyson throws jabs.

Tyson won more rounds, I'm not denying that, he won a lot of the middle rounds. Unfortunately I cannot see how you don't score some of the first 5 rounds for Wilder. Scoring the first time around I had Wilder 4-1 up after 5 rounds. I had it 4-4 through 8 rounds. Round 9 was a 10-8 so I had Wilder 6-4 and then I gave Fury rounds 10 and 11 which had it tied up at 6-6. Wilder wins the last round 10-8 so he wins it by 2 points. 116-114 Wilder.

Wilder won in my opinion.

You don't understand boxing scoring. Wilder would have to win 6 rounds to win and he didn't even win 4.

If Wilder won 6 rounds the score would be 114-112 for Wilder. I had Wilder winning rounds 2, 9, and 12 so I scored it 115-111 for Fury, if I were being generous I could give him round 7 and he would still have lost 114-112 to Wilder.

Learn how to score boxing matches.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Fury got dropped like 3 times...how did he not loose?!

Because it's called boxing not knockdown