Discussion in 'Sports Bar' started by OCGSC, Jul 3, 2018.
And bested by Christian McCaffrey at Stanford
a great line will make average to below average RBs amazing to great and invariably help them stay durable. Best example is Shaun Alexander for the Seahawks. He was kicking ass with his best season in 2005 for 1880 yards, 27 TDs. After that phenomenal year Steve Hutchinson (All Pro Guard) left via free agency to Minnesota and Shaun Alexander's stock (in fantasy football) immediately dropped. He was getting drafted in the top 5 on the regular but as soon as Hutchinson left, most didn't wanted to touch him before the 3rd or 4th round. There were still believers but most astute fantasy footballers were pretty sure SA would be a dud. He never came close to his prime ever again. Finished that season with about 900 yards and 7 TDs in an injury plagued season and was out the league 2 years later.
I am not saying Emmitt is garbage.. Great RB.. but I don't think he's in the top 10. That O-line was one of the best of all time in an era where free agency was not a big thing yet and most players still started and finished their career with that team...
Walter Payton's teams couldn't move the ball in the air and his O-line wasn't great. It's him or Barry for GOAT rbs.
I'm a broncos fan. No way TD should be any higher then 10, and I struggle to put him there. He ran behind a line that was competitive with any of the great lines in history, and Elway was his QB. When you add that to a short career, I don't know how I put him in front of a Curtis Martin, or Frank Gore. Nevermind a Thurmond or Dickerson, or even Jerome bettis.
As good as that line was, emmitts longevity has to count for something. He was old as dirt, playing behind a barely mediocre line in Arizona, and still playing at a high level.
I do agree to a certain extent though, that if Curtis Martin or Frank Gore played behind that line, that they would have been dominate. Tarell Davis is a good example of this. His line was as good, and he was as dominate as emmitt ever was. The longevity for Emmitt with the championships, and records, it counts for something. Gets him to 4 on my list.
I mean none of the guys that will be named other then Barry played behind a bad o-line.
Damn good back on a great team.
I take who they played with into consideration but it doesnt make or break the argument for anyone imo. There are a lot of RBs who balled out on shitty teams. There are a lot of great offenses and o-lines that RBs contribute fuck all to as well.
Marshawn Lynch and Marshawn Lynch*
I just like taking the piss out of people over Barry v. Emmitt. It's one of the liveliest sports debates of all time
Theyre both giant cans in comparison to the one that is Beast Mode.
Chances are he won't get signed again anyways, so may as well add him.
Still has the Monday Night Football rushing record ftw
Except for that cowboys like from like 88-96
LMAO at people calling Emmitt an average back. His outstanding lines got him the all-time records, but he was excellent. Anyone remember when he sat out and the team looked like shit? You couldn't just plug someone in for him. Barry was better (so were others), but people take this shit too far. Plenty of RBs have had great O-Lines, none have done what he did with them.
He's better than average, but he probably still isn't even top 5 talent wise.
I have him somewhere between 6-10. More to consider than just talent though. His prep and conditioning were top notch which had a lot to do with his productivity. Being a direct contemporary of Barry's has killed his legacy.
But honestly, after the top 5, whom I have as:
It gets pretty hard to put them in order. I do think it's funny people don't give Emmitt credit for his longevity, but have no problem giving Payton credit for his (which they absolutely should).
Sweetness was on another level and was a god damn gazelle compared to Emmitt. He made runningback look easy. That's the main reason. You see that over time and you just can't believe it.
Who is Joe Brown?
Marcus Allen is not one of the top 10 best. He had what, like 4 good seasons in the early 80s and rode that success as a has been for the next 15 years. Did he even have a 1000 yard season after his big career year in like 84 or whatever it was?
Emmitt had no business starting in Arizona.
10. Earl Campbell
9. LaDainian Tomlinson
8. Thurman Thomas
7. Markus Allen
6. Erik Dickerson
5. Bo Jackson
4. John Riggins
3. Marshall Faulk
2. Walter Payton
1. Barry Sanders
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