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Whittakers win over Jacare is one of the most underrated wins in MMA history

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by The Witcher, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:05 AM.

  1. The Witcher

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    Whittaker not only shrug Jacare off and avoided the ground game (which not many have been able to do), he completely out struck him, bell to bell with a variety of kicks and punches resulting in a one sided beating of a Brazilian great. And yes, Jacare is great.

    Jacare Souza - The hit list

    Matt Lindland - Submission
    Robbie Lawler - Submission
    Tim Kennedy - Decision
    Derek Brunson - KO x 2
    Ed Herman - Submission
    Yushin Okami - Thunderous KO
    Mousasi (Sherdogs darling) - Submission
    Vitor Belfort - TKO
    Tim Barbarian - Submission
    Chris Weidman - KO

    The losses

    Mousasi up kick 10 years ago. Random, unusual but legitimate.
    Rockhold - decision that could have went either way.
    Romero - Split decision loss that could have went either way.
    Whittaker - Real only one sided butchering, masterful performance.
    Gastelum - Split decision loss that could have went either way.

    I didnt include Jacare's first loss and fight in mma, a KO against some random.

    Jacares has 33 pro fights with 6 losses, 3 of those dicey decisions. The other 3? Standard mma debut loss, weird upkick which was easily avenged but the standout is the Whittaker massacre.

    Given the level of opponent Jacare is and who he has beaten along with the few losses he has i rate Whittakers win over Jacare one of the most underrated and underappreciated ever. What you guys think? Any more to add?
     
  2. C0NCH3TO

    C0NCH3TO Silver Belt

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    True dat. Jacare is a fucking tough matchup for anyone.
     
  3. MTL

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    I agree.
     
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    Nothing to add, but I co-sign your point.

    I think he’s probably exiting his MMA prime, but Jacare is one of the ten best BJJ players of all time, and has had an absolutely phenomenal MMA career. He might be one of the best fighters to never fight for a UFC belt.
     
  5. bunt

    bunt A Goats eye is the GOAT eye

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    Jacare is a a monster. Proved by the latest Weidman win when he looked unstoppable.
     
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    Jacare came injured in that fight with torn bicep.
     
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  7. The Witcher

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    I thought he injured his pec in the fight?
     
  8. WeedLordBonerHitler

    WeedLordBonerHitler Your Mom Buys My Newports

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    IMO, Whittaker is the most talented and dangerous man on the UFC roster.

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  9. VinceArch

    VinceArch Venom in the veins.

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    Jacare is an animal and he deserves the winner of Whittaker/Gastelum.
     
  10. The Witcher

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    Bloody beautiful.
     
  11. dros

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    Gotta agree with all points OP made. Jacare is one of the best to have never fought for a ufc title which is crazy.
     
  12. Willek

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    Yoel being built like a teenage mutant ninja turtle helped him there.
     
  13. WeedLordBonerHitler

    WeedLordBonerHitler Your Mom Buys My Newports

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    What an amazing story of a fighter too. Gets rocked by prime Wonderboy in devastating fashion. Goes up a weight class and murders everyone the UFC puts in front of him including 2 wins against Romero and getting the belt. Lasting 50 minutes with Romero is his biggest accolade in my opinion. Romero murdered the shit out of anyone else in that division, look at Weidman and Rockhold they are practically retired from Romero. If Bisping had stayed and fought Romero what TRT Vitor did to him would of seemed like a walk in the park.

    But Jacare is like the gate keeper of his division like Junior Dos Santos is (or was) of the Heavyweights. If a heavyweight can beat JDS, they can hold a belt for sure.
     
  14. Typrune Goatley

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    It is a great win considering how great Jacare is but let's not forget Jacare came into that fight injured.

    And shame on you for calling his first opponent Jorge Patino a "random!" Jorge was a good fighter who started out his career 16-0, has about 60 fights, fought all around the world against many great fighters and even fought for a UFC championship! He is not just some "random."
     
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    Apologies on Patino. I wont pretend like i know who he is/was.

    I never buy into the whole injured thing though. They fought and the result remained.
     
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    It's all good. Most people don't know who Jorge is but he is a very solid veteran.

    As for the injuries, I can only chalk that up to Jacare being a warrior and not pulling out of the fight. I still give a lot of credit to Whittaker for winning and I like how you give credit to Jacare's greatness in the OP. But I do believe a healthy Jacare could win a rematch, even at this advanced age. We also don't know how those wars with Yoel affected RW. I guess we will find out when he fights another great fighter in Gastelum.
     
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    Jacare is still underrated around here, IMO. That man can fight. He's turned himself into an excellent striker...and of course, his BJJ is still scary
     
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    Agreed
     
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    He was arguably one fence grab from winning that Romero fight, too.
     
  20. Someasshole

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    Love jacare.. a fucking top level hw on the ground and a talanted mw with a solid chin standing..

    Whittaker is probably one of the most underappreciated fighters ever.. romerox2, jacare, brunson, hall, tavares.. that is a pretty solid resume for someone moving up from ww..

    So yes.. must agree..
     

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