white men who tried to blow up mosque and apartment building demand Trump voters on the jury

Ruprecht said:
The thread's about how they think they'll get leniency for attempting to blow up a mosque and an apartment complex full of Somali Muslims if the jury is stacked with Trump supporters.
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Sure but I didn't know if you were talking about people's opinions on these guys. The poster above my last post took it the same way I did.
 
SBJJ said:
That's a nice write up for someone that was not there.
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Wow what a shit post. Name something wrong with what he said.

Not to mention they live streamed the whole thing, it was hilarious dude. They were crying about Delta Force and dumb shit.

The only justice served was that tarp man's death was so fucking funny and well documented.
 
K1levelgrappler said:
They're just patriotic citizens striking back at the forces of multiculturalism and white genocide. I'm sure some of the Trumpsters around here will issue condemnations but if they're honest with themselves they basically have to admit that these men had their hearts in the right place and they were simply using the wrong tactics.
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Wait, so you're saying white people should bow down, continue to accept all the different forms of racial hatred directed towards them, continue to let in people that will grow up to hate them and think they're privileged etc?

Fighting against this twisted global agenda is so racist!
 
Should let them have their way.

But.

If and when they still get convicted then send them to Islamistan via trebuchet.
 
JosephDredd said:
Everything I described is exactly what happened.

They seized a federal building using firearms.

They threatened to kill any law enforcement that tried to remove them.

They called others to gather weapons, join their cause and kill government officials / law enforcement.

The demanded the removal of federal, state and municipal governments, to be replaced by their own.

In the middle of the seige, they brought in a former judge to help implement their own rule of law. They tried to negotiate with nearby communities in the implementation of their own rule of law, traveling to those communities during the seige.
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Okay . . . I'll concede those points . . . you obviously paid waaaaay more attention to the event than I did.

They demanded the release of two criminals, convicted on the testimony of their own family members.

Change the color of their skin and you would have no trouble calling them terrorists. Especially since, as sovereign citizens, they're the number one source of domestic terrorism in the United States and the number one killer of law enforcement officials.
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Okay . . . okay . . . it inflicted terror . . . it was an act of domestic terrorism. You happy now?

Can you imagine the angry shits you'd be filling your pants with if Muslims took over a federal building, threatened to kill government officials, demanded the rule of Sharia law, and belonged to a terrorist organization that had a history of murdering Americans?

Why, your pants would be so full of angry shit that you wouldn't be able to type stupid things on the internet. That's pretty severe.
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No angry shits here dude.

Both situations are obviously wrong and against the law.
 
RIPWarrior said:
Wait, so you're saying white people should bow down, continue to accept all the different forms of racial hatred directed towards them, continue to let in people that will grow up to hate them and think they're privileged etc?

Fighting against this twisted global agenda is so racist!
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To be fair, you're a loathsome bag of shit and everyone will grow to hate you, not just immigrants.
 
RIPWarrior said:
Wait, so you're saying white people should bow down, continue to accept all the different forms of racial hatred directed towards them, continue to let in people that will grow up to hate them and think they're privileged etc?

Fighting against this twisted global agenda is so racist!
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So, this strongly implies that you support what they did. Are you just going imply it, like a wimp, or are you going to say it, like a (sorry excuse for a) man? You do have a habit of being too chickenshit to speak directly, so here's an opportunity for you.
 
Now we know what Kone, rip, kln0mega, pwent and struggle have been up to since getting banned.
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-bomb-plot-targeting-somali-muslim-immigrants


Three Kansas Men Found Guilty Of Bomb Plot Targeting Somali Muslim Immigrants


Three Kansas men were convicted Wednesday of plotting to bomb an apartment complex where Somali immigrants lived and worshiped in Garden City, following a four-week trial in Wichita.

Just a day after beginning deliberations, a federal jury found Curtis Allen, 50; Gavin Wright, 49; and Patrick Eugene Stein, 49, each guilty of one count of conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction as well as one count of violating the housing rights of their would-be victims.

Wright was also convicted of lying to the FBI.

All three men face life in prison.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions called the verdict "a significant victory against domestic terrorism and hate crimes."

The men were arrested in 2016 just weeks before prosecutors say they had hoped to carry out mass murder at the apartment complex the day after U.S. voters elected the next president.

Prosecutors say the men, part of a militia group called the Kansas Security Force, prepared a manifesto saying their attack "would wake people up."

Prosecutor Risa Berkower said at the trial, "They wanted to send the message that Muslims are not welcome here – not in Garden City, not in Kansas, not in America," reports KCUR.

The men were charged following a months-long FBI investigation and sting operation.

They called themselves "the Crusaders" and had scoped out several potential targets, stockpiling firearms and bomb-making parts, say prosecutors.

Court documents say they then settled on 312 West Mary Street in Garden City, a cluster of eight buildings housing more than 100 people — mainly East African immigrants, KCUR's Frank Morris reported for NPR.

One of the apartments served as a mosque.

But before the men could potentially act, a source tipped off the FBI.

Stein then met with an undercover agent seeking to obtain a bomb, and bringing the agent to see the apartment complex, say prosecutors.

The cooperating witness also made secret recordings revealing the men "discussed and refined their plan," which consisted of parking four explosive-filled vehicles at each corner of the complex, ensuring that it would "level the building and kill its occupants," according to the U.S. attorney's office in Kansas.

Some of the recordings were played for the jurors.

"The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim," Stein allegedly said in one conversation, Morris reports.

But defense attorneys argued that the men's words were constitutionally protected free speech and did not amount to a conspiracy.

"It is not morally right to hold such hate, but it is not legally wrong," said Stein's attorney James Pratt, reports KCUR.

The New York Times reports the men also talked about attacking then-President Barack Obama as well as members of Congress, words the defense characterized as idle chatter.

Sessions — and the federal jury — saw it differently.

"The defendants in this case acted with clear premeditation in an attempt to kill people on the basis of their religion and national origin," Sessions said in a statement. "That's not just illegal—it's immoral and unacceptable, and we're not going to stand for it.

Sentencing is scheduled June 27.
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Being a defense attorney has to be rough. I'm assuming at least one of them was aware of just how stupid that argument is and suggested a plea bargain (maybe that's not even an option in a case this cut and dry), but the terrific trio probably insisted on pleading innocent.

I guess the upside as the lawyer is that there isn't much pressure because your case is fucked from the get go.
 
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