Which is better the summo squat or the sumo deadlift for power? | Page 4

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  1. pokerandbeer Yellow Card

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    Whats wrong Jim you going to take me up on it or you a coward?

    Maybe you finally realized you dont know as much as you pretend to know?

    Your extensive knowledge of MMA trainig comes from a podcast lol!
     
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    Again man, you're arguing against strawmen. No one has suggested that strength training is the "end all be all for fighting."
     
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    Fair enough. How important do you think it is?
     
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  4. Cmart Aspiring Milo

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    For some fighters (anecdotally, which seems to be okay with you) excessive strength has propelled them past weaknesses in their skill game to the highest levels of the sport.
     
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    Depends upon the individual, how weak they are, what their other attributes are, and their fighting style.
     
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    Didn't answer the question, but it's alright.

    Okay, cool. I think we're pretty much in agreement there.

    Which exercises, and for what purposes, would you say are the best, if any? And where do you see them carrying over?

    I know that's hard to answer and very broad, but I'm genuinely interested, not trying to lure you into something. Basicly just which exercises do you like and why?
     
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  7. Cmart Aspiring Milo

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    If I was to train a fighter or train to fight?

    I'd assess to see where the athlete's weaknesses are and try to shore those up first. But cleans, lunges, landmine press, OHP/jerks, farmers walk, rows, pullups, and grip work for starters, pretty much universally. Dozens of other exercises as needed.
     
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  8. NurseKnuckles My Mom's stronger than you belt

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    He doesn't have unlimited resources at his disposal. I thought that was a pretty obvious point. Maybe I'm missing something...
     
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  9. belph Pissing into the wind.

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    Look at who you quoted.
     
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  10. deadshot138 Brown Belt

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    According to CAndito it doesn't matter which one you do
     
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  11. pokerandbeer Yellow Card

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    if you listen to the regular posters here in the S and C forum you are surely going to reach your goals......thats one thing ive learned here over the time ive been here

    seriously though i am a part of several forums and this is by far the worst one when it comes to its regulars

    nobody wants to debate....they want to turn basic training for a sport into organic chemistry......they look for every opportunity to make snarky remarks and flame everybody they disagree with rather than have a productive discussion

    as a side note though that statement definitely does not include everyone here but to many it does
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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  13. pokerandbeer Yellow Card

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    that would be funny if it were true
     
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  14. pokerandbeer Yellow Card

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    jim you are the king of trolls on this board
     
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  15. JimRussel Purple Belt

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    I think there's one other person you're missing.

    The only difference between me and him is that one of knows when he's trolling and does it intentionally.
     
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  16. pokerandbeer Yellow Card

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    "i heard on a podcast that mma fighters should focus on strength"-JimRussel
     
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  17. JimRussel Purple Belt

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    "I like to misquote people."
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    There is a lot of science behind punching power. Some hit like a pea shooter and others like a mule kick. I think a lot of it is genetic. Research the science behind it. Those are two different exercises that offer different movements and have benefits.

    One trainer had me do circuit training. A lot of pushups but explosive movements (claps or thrust ups during), mountain climbers, and all intervals. There is training for mobility, for accuracy, speed, and a variety of things that all come together. The science is fascinating.

    TS; there is so much that goes into it. There is no one answer. You got to hit from a variety of angles, train specifically for all those facets of striking, and accumulate power. Even then, there is still no guarantee. Not everyone is going to hit like Tyson or Foreman. Its just a reality but,t here is science behind all this stuff.

    http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/knockout-power-the-top-5-exercises/2/

     
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  19. BringBackTRTforFairness White Belt

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    Lol hes funny, no freakish power interesting tip though worth experimenting with to see if it is actually better form or not. Thankyou
     
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  20. bigbangspiritbomb Red Belt

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    No problem. I posted a thread about picking up a martial art this summer. Would love a tip.
     
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