Which current LHWs could defeat prime Tim Sylvia?

The same prime tim who got outstruck pretty heavily on the feet by Randy couture:? lol
Didnt he have back problems pre fight though
I remember pre fight interview he tried to talk injury issue but was booed by crowd
Later he needed some sort of back surgery dana wouldnt pay for
Randy had trained with tim for a previous fight so may have had inside word the hw champ was ripe for a beatdown....
Could be wrong about the back/injury though
wouldnt shock me at all if dana had made tim get in there not 100%
 
Didnt he have back problems pre fight though
I remember pre fight interview he tried to talk injury issue but was booed by crowd
Later he needed some sort of back surgery dana wouldnt pay for
Randy had trained with tim for a previous fight so may have had inside word the hw champ was ripe for a beatdown....
Could be wrong about the back/injury though
wouldnt shock me at all if dana had made tim get in there not 100%

Indeed this has pretty much been confirmed since hasn't it? I'd imagine this kind of stuff is what doomed Extreme Couture as a major camp.

Plus of course Couture dropped Sylvia almost right away which obviously had a big impact on how the rest of the fight went. If Sylvia was that easy to outstrike why didn't Vera do it? he outstruck Randy and was pretty even with Shogun.

Sylvia was prone to being dropped early by quick opponents who could get inside with power but in prolonged contests at range he was very effective getting the best of Arlovski, Vera, Tra, etc
 
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Tim had arlovskis # (styles make fights, etc) other than that he sucked. All?
 
And the fact of the matter is Tim Sylvia is or never was an all time great.Jon Jones,
Daniel Cormier, Anthony Johnson and Jimi Manuw all smash him within two rounds.
Most heavyweights title defences, like it of not he's an all time great
 
Most heavyweights title defences, like it of not he's an all time great
It was a whopping two title defences and in a time when they literally had to create a star heavyweight in like a month (arlovski). There were no good HW's to challenge his title. His "defences" were against Gan McGee(he pissed hot and was stripped of the title after) Andre Arlovski (a total creation of the UFC because they didn't have a "star" at the time and Jeff Monson(who never had and business in a UFC title fight) . That's why he lost it to a senior citizen LHW. Not even close to an all time great.
 
Vera almost beat a prime sylvia if it werent for his hands that got broked
 
Jeff Monson(who never had and business in a UFC title fight)
You say that now but wasn't he on a massive win streak then, and most of his losses around that time were to greats?
 
Well that's a nice excuse.

From a technical standpoint, Tim has always been slow, awkward and unimpressive In his boxing / movement. His size obviously still presents a challenge, but most LHW's with decent hands eat him up.

Tim's a warrior, he tried to fight on after Mir snapped his arm in half, i really don't think he was making up the back problems, especially as he had surgery not long after.

He boxed up Vera and handed Big Nog his worst beating since Fedor.

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Big Tim would give current HWs a fit let alone the weak LHW division.
 
Sylvia wasn't as bad as a lot of people remember him. He'd be a factor in the current HW division. Jones, Rumble, Cormier, and probably Gus would likely beat him, but I'd be skeptical of pretty much anyone else (Glover from a few years back could too, but he's getting long in the tooth).
 
Jon Jones. He could beat every prime fighter in MMA history IMO.
 
I think a lot of the top 10 could take out the version the 43 year old Randy beat. Especially if they were now heavyweights like Randy was.

The not so gun shy old Tim would be tougher but would still be no match for a HW DC or Jones.
 
You say that now but wasn't he on a massive win streak then, and most of his losses around that time were to greats?
He had three wins in the UFC at the time against Brandon Lee Hinkle, Marcio Cruz, and Anthony Perosh. I've been around for a while and I don't remember any of those three. And he did lose to some greats......great LHW's Forrest and chuck.
 
DC would be favored. Rumble a good chance. The rest... not as much. He might have even beaten Couture in a rematch for that matter (Yeah, I said it)... ya win some, ya lose some.

~ just one sherbrother's opinion
 
He had three wins in the UFC at the time against Brandon Lee Hinkle, Marcio Cruz, and Anthony Perosh. I've been around for a while and I don't remember any of those three. And he did lose to some greats......great LHW's Forrest and chuck.
Cruz beat Mir right before losing to Monson so I'd assume he was considered a good win at that moment and Perosh is pretty well known... for being a punching bag lol.
 
Evolution of sport is pretty much bull. Sure guys like Jones come up but lots of the new age aren't much better.

I bet 100% that Manuwa wouldn't know what to do if he hits the ground or like Rumble gets choked as soon as he gives up his back. Even Big Tim knew how to throw up chokes and locks from the bottom.

Fighters back then were truly well rounded.

I don't get it either. I mean AA who was getting smashed by Brett Rogers almost made a run recently. Werdum who was mid-level suddenly became champion for a short while. Those fighters do get better and worse, but that just shows there isn't some drastic difference. AA fought a really bad Tim relatively recently and Tim didn't get ko'd in 20 seconds.
 
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