I agree, Hopkins was never going to beat that version of RJJ, the results of that particular matchup was never going to budge until father time took enough out of Jones. By the time that came, everyone was beating him. Bhop almost beat the same version of Calzaghe RJJ lost to, and did beat Tarver who RJJ lost to as well, when they were relevant. Doesn't make me think for a second Roy doesn't annihilate all of them in his heyday.
It is strange how Roy put on a clinic against the Kingpin of the division in Toney, yet didn't fight the others. I know Eubank didn't want to fight him, calling it suicide.
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eubank called it suicide? i think it would have been a great fight, eubank had a chin and heart, in fact, i always said, it was the brits of the era who would have had a chance to beat him, why they didn't? everybody too busy trying to protect their shit.
I tend to agree with the real oldheads on this and rate RJ in the lower half of the top 100 and consider that as generous. When you've seen the fights I have, the warriors I have and to think that they'd never land a single shot on roy and would cower like most of his opponents did is ridiculous. James Toney was his biggest win but do you remember James Toney actually got his ass handed to him a few years before by a clubfighter names James Tiberi? Toney had a habit of showing up out of shape and completely unfocussed, probably one of the worst for that era at that level. Hopkins? I don't know, I never watched a ton of Hopkins but he didn't impress me in the Jones fight, he fought conservative too.
Ok, I respect your opinion, name 49 fighters that edge him out of top 50?
sun, it's almost not even a matter of who, it's a matter of honor, how could i take roy and put him over someone i've seen damn near die trying to win like Alexis Arguello? How can I? You could say "it's not a moral question,pfp". and you have a point but i can't do it man. When you've seen a guy dig down like that, take those kinds of shots, go past his limits, even when he's in hopeless fight, how you gonna take a guy who's slapped a bunch of fringe contenders around ahead of him, it's just wrong.
"He said "Yeah". I said "You know what, if that fight would had ever happened - we both would have been hurt. Because I would have had to go to war with you to win. Can't beat guys like this. I mean, in his time - all respect to Joe - in his time, you know - it's suicide. Same with Toney - suicide. And I was never focused that way. For me, it was never about being the best. I was happy being one of the best. That was my truth. Why would I want to fight a man like Roy Jones in his prime"?
wow, interesting statement, coming from a guy like that who showed so much heart anytime his feet were put to the fire. I don't think toney was as much to worry about, a guy who showed up talking about burger king all the time, come on, he could look unimpressive at any time and did.
