When did Jon Jones became a draw?

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  1. TerraRayzing

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    A lot of folks here think that UFC will pay a crap ton of cash to usada to get Jones free sooner but when did Jones become such a huge draw? The huge draws in the UFC are conor, GSP and Brock. Jones did what, 300k in his return fight against osp. He did good numbers only when fighting against Cormier and that's it.
    Don't get when he became this huge draw.
     
  2. VinceArch

    VinceArch Venom in the veins.

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    Yeah, he seems to only draw when he has the right opponent.
     
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    Him and Rashad/Rampage did very good business.
     
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    Jones needs a big name rival else nobody wants to pay $60 to watch him dominate. Hence why he and DC did so well, and if Rumble would have made it to a title shot, probably would have sold well too.
     
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    Around the Vera fight. that was his first headline
     
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    He started drawing big numbers after he beat Shogun for the belt. He was the first MMA fighter ever to appear on The Tonight Show. (that was with Jay Leno’s second run, after he ousted Conan.)

    His feud with Rashad was big money. It was a major draw and big MMA story. He didn’t draw too great of numbers vs Gus but that fight turned out to be spectacular and everyone started tuning in consistently afterwards, not wanting to miss his next big war.

    Then his drama happened in and around the 1st Cormier fight and he became a big news story.

    He didn’t draw that well against OSP because people expected an easy win for Jones and were waiting for the big fight. Same reason Tyson could draw good numbers against elite guys like Holyfield but not as well against people like Tony Tubbs. People buy based on name recognition AND expectations. Nobody figured OSP had a Gus type performance in him and they were correct.
     
  7. HNIC215

    HNIC215 Semper Fidelis...

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    When he beat Stephan Bonner at such a young age doing all types of slick shit during the fight... that put him on people's radar...
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    When he lost to Hamil after a tough battle. The loss made him look human.
     
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    Nobody ever claimed that he's as big as McGregor, GSP, Brock or Rousey.

    But he's a bigger name than everybody else on the roster who doesn't have a degree of mainstream fame. That's an incontrovertible fact.
     
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    He's not as big as them, agreed, but if you asked a handful of people on the street to name MMA fighters, he'd be one of the 5 or 6 guys they've heard of.
     
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    When he became the eye pokin, weed tokin, steroid usin, pregnant woman abusin, coke inhalin, USADA failin son of a gun!

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    He gained momentum by beating the shit out of almost every past champion there was.
     
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    When he made Shogun tap to strikes


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    Jon Jones was never a draw, isn't a draw now, and will never be a draw

    Jones averages 500k a PPV. Jones isn't even in the top 5

    Only forum nerds on sherdog know about Jones.
     
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    Yeah. Machida, Rampage, Rashad, Shogun... they were all big names in the sport and he beat them all. That made him huge.
     
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    Smashing Hamill's face in made him a star in my mind. I'm guessing he started drawing well pretty shortly after that.

    That was in the pre-Ronda, pre-Conor glory days, when people followed the sport and draws were based on talent. UFC poisoned that well. You never go full WWE, because then you can't go back. UFC went full WWE.
     
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    He's not....No matter how much the UFC tried to make him a draw, the Young White American Male UFC fanbase, never accepted him thus his PPV numbers were crap unless it was Black on Black Crime....Which the Young White American Male UFC fanbase loves.


    They hated him from the start...He was against pot...He then beat their boy shogun and the hate never stopped.


    UFC lacks so many stars right now, that they still think they can turn Jones into the next muhammad ali, which is what they originally thought.
     
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    LOL at the 2 boneheads below. They didnt read the OP and are only responding to the thread title. Look at them ramble on from only the persepective of their bubble

    Jones is and never has been a star. Jones isn't even in the top 5



    1. Conor McGregor

    -UFC 189: McGregor vs Mendes - 825k
    -UFC 194: McGregor vs Aldo - 1.025 mil
    -UFC 196: McGregor vs Diaz 1 - 1.32 mil
    -UFC 202: McGregor vs Diaz 2 - 1.65 mil
    -UFC 205: McGregor vs Alvarez - 1.3 mil
    * McGregor vs Mayweather - 4.3 mil

    Total amount of PPV's sold: 10'420'000(including Mayweather) 6'120'000 (excluding)
    Average number of PPV buys: 1'736'666(including Mayweather) 1'224'000 (excluding)


    *Very impressive to see the total and average amount of PPV's sold with so little fights in the UFC. McGregor is definitely "P4P' the top draw the UFC has ever had, including or excluding the Mayweather fight.


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    2. George St-Pierre

    -UFC 65: GSP vs Hughes - 500k
    -UFC 69: GSP vs Serra 1 - 400k
    -UFC 74: Couture vs Gonzaga - 520k
    -UFC 79: GSP vs Hughes 3 - 620k
    -UFC 83: GSP vs Serra 2 - 530k
    -UFC 87: GSP vs Fitch - 625k
    -UFC 94: GSP vs Penn 2 - 920k
    -UFC 100: Lesnar vs Mir 2 - 1.6m
    -UFC 111: GSP vs Hardy - 770k
    -UFC 124: GSP vs Koscheck - 785k
    -UFC 129: GSP vs Shields - 800k
    -UFC 154: GSP vs Condit - 700k
    -UFC 158: GSP vs Diaz - 950k
    -UFC 167: GSP vs Hendricks - 630k
    -UFC 217: GSP vs Bisping - 825k

    Total amount of PPV's sold: 11'175'00
    Average number of PPV buys: 745'000


    *George St-Pierre is the fighter who sold the most amount of PPV's at 11.1 mil. GSP is a very consistent draw. If it wasn't for his average number of PPV's being 500k - 1 mil lower to McGregor's, he would be N.1.

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    3. Brock Lesnar

    -UFC 81: Sylvia vs Nog - 600k
    -UFC 87: GSP vs Fitch - 625k
    -UFC 91: Lesnar vs Couture - 1.01 mil
    -UFC 100: Lesnar vs Mir 2 - 1.6 mil
    -UFC 116: Lesnar vs Carwin - 1.06 mil
    -UFC 121: Lesnar vs Velasquez - 900k
    -UFC 141: Lesnar vs Overeem - 535k
    -UFC 200: Tate vs Nunes - 1.01 mil

    Total amount of PPV's sold: 7'340'000
    Average number of PPV buys: 917'500


    *Lesnar takes third. Less PPV's sold than GSP but a higher average.

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    4. Ronda Rousey

    -UFC 157: Rousey vs Carmouche - 450k
    -UFC 168: Silva vs Weidman 2 - 1.02 mil
    -UFC 170: Rousey vs McMann - 350k
    -UFC 175: Weidman vs Machida - 545k
    -UFC 184: Rousey vs Zingano - 600k
    -UFC 190: Rousey vs Betch - 900k
    -UFC 193: Rousey vs Holms - 1.1 mil
    -UFC 207: Rousey vs Nunes - 1.1 mil

    Total amount of PPV's sold: 6'065'000
    Average number of PPV buys: 758'125


    * Another fighter who pullied impressive number for the amount of events fought. Higher average than GSP, but almost half the total amount of PPV's sold.

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    5. Anderson Silva


    -UFC 64: Silva vs Franklin - 300k
    -UFC 67: Silva vs Lutter - 400k
    -UFC 73: Ortiz vs Evans - 425k
    -UFC 77: Silva vs Franklin 2 - 325k
    -UFC 85: Silva vs Henderson - 320k
    -UFC 90: Silva vs Cote - 300k
    -UFC 97: Silva vs Leites - 670k
    -UFC 101: Penn vs Florian - 850k
    -UFC 112: Silva vs Maia - 500k
    -UFC 117: Silva vs Sonnen 1 - 600k
    -UFC 126: Silva vs Belfort - 725k
    -UFC 134: Silva vs Okami - 334k
    -UFC 148: Silva vs Sonnen 2 - 925k
    -UFC 153: Silva vs Bonnar - 410k
    -UFC 162: Silva vs Weidman 1 - 550k
    -UFC 168: Silva vs Weidman 2 - 1.02 mil
    -UFC 183: Silva vs Diaz - 650k

    Total amount of PPV's sold: 9'304'000
    Average number of PPV buys: 547'294


    *Although his average number of sales is much lower than the fighters above him, he was the main or co-main event on 17 UFC cards



    All credit goes to @DatSamboKid for crunching up the numbers

     
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    This is the best post I have ever read on Sherdog and nominate it for best post ever. I will now call in the Mayberry to deliberate. I am no groundhog expert so I can’t just declare something like this without a hearty debate.

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    I can’t remember the entire Mayberry but this is a good start
     
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    he aint only dorks in the mma media like to pretend he is
     

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