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So you need something pretty specialized then.My dad has a pair of those and they are solid. I've had vortex and leupold, but now that I'm actually living in Alaska, in like 9 months I'll have residency hunting rights so sheep and goat, over the counter licenses, no ma distort guides....I also found out that if I want I could get a position in the lake and peninsula bourough and they have subsistance rights so I could hunt year round.