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No way. You have to be kidding.

Dead serious, son.

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No way. You have to be kidding.

This kind of stuff happens quite a bit... Just saying...

'Extinct' fish caught by Indonesian fisherman
Last updated at 13:05 21 May 2007




An Indonesian fisherman has caught a coelacanth, an ancient fish once thought to have become extinct at the time of the dinosaurs, a fishery expert has said.


Yustinus Lahama and his son caught the fish on Saturday in the sea off North Sulawesi province and kept it at their house for an hour, said Grevo Gerung, a professor at the fisheries faculty at the Sam Ratulangi University.

After being told by neighbours it was a rare fish he took it back to the sea and kept it in a quarantine pool for about 17 hours before it died.

"If kept outside their habitat (60 metres or 200 ft below the sea), the fish can only live for two hours. But this fish lived for about 17 hours," Gerung said.

"We will look into why it had lived that long," he said.

The fish was 131 centimetres (about four feet) long and weighed 51 kg (112 lb), Gerung said.

In 1998, fishermen a caught another coelacanth in a deep-water shark net off northern Sulawesi.

That catch came 60 years after a member of the species was rediscovered on the east coast of South Africa.

Coelacanths are known from the fossil records dating back more than 360 million years, according to the Australian Museum Fish Web site.

Before 1938 they were believed to have become extinct approximately 80 million years ago, when they disappeared from the fossil record, it said.

Coelacanths are the only living animals to have a fully functional intercranial joint, which is a division separating the ear and brain from the nasal organs and eye.



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This kind of stuff happens quite a bit... Just saying...

'Extinct' fish caught by Indonesian fisherman
Last updated at 13:05 21 May 2007




An Indonesian fisherman has caught a coelacanth, an ancient fish once thought to have become extinct at the time of the dinosaurs, a fishery expert has said.


Yustinus Lahama and his son caught the fish on Saturday in the sea off North Sulawesi province and kept it at their house for an hour, said Grevo Gerung, a professor at the fisheries faculty at the Sam Ratulangi University.

After being told by neighbours it was a rare fish he took it back to the sea and kept it in a quarantine pool for about 17 hours before it died.

"If kept outside their habitat (60 metres or 200 ft below the sea), the fish can only live for two hours. But this fish lived for about 17 hours," Gerung said.

"We will look into why it had lived that long," he said.

The fish was 131 centimetres (about four feet) long and weighed 51 kg (112 lb), Gerung said.

In 1998, fishermen a caught another coelacanth in a deep-water shark net off northern Sulawesi.

That catch came 60 years after a member of the species was rediscovered on the east coast of South Africa.

Coelacanths are known from the fossil records dating back more than 360 million years, according to the Australian Museum Fish Web site.

Before 1938 they were believed to have become extinct approximately 80 million years ago, when they disappeared from the fossil record, it said.

Coelacanths are the only living animals to have a fully functional intercranial joint, which is a division separating the ear and brain from the nasal organs and eye.



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Judging by his dismissively arrogant post, you're wasting your time with that one.
 
And guess how wolves survived? They learned to avoid us.

Plenty of people have crossed paths with them. Nobody has delivered a body to mainstream scientists. By and large mainstream scientists aren't even looking for it - only a minority are. With a fully committed effort, we likely would.

The unfortunate stigmatization due to hoaxery has made their discovery much less likely to happen. It is not a fair assessment to say that we can't find them. Only that we haven't.

Which is probably a good thing, to be honest.


Ummm....they survived through conservation efforts.

The only reason they exist in the lower 48 is because we imported them from Canada and Alaska. And we still find them whenever we want. We know the packs and individuals of basically all of them in Yellowstone etc.
 
Another fun one is the Phantom Time Hypothesis.

Like all the others, it's false, but interesting and fun to think about.
Is that where we skipped from 1200 to 1500 or some shit? Like those 300 years never happened?
 
Ummm....they survived through conservation efforts.

The only reason they exist in the lower 48 is because we imported them from Canada and Alaska. And we still find them whenever we want. We know the packs and individuals of basically all of them in Yellowstone etc.

No, not entirely they didn't. It was conservation that preserved them in certain regions. They survived on their own elsewhere by learning to avoid human beings. Or do you think there are no animals capable of such a thing?

We reintroduced them into Yellowstone, so it's no surprise that we'd keep tabs on them thereafter. It wouldn't be difficult to get funding to do so. Not comparable.
 
This kind of stuff happens quite a bit... Just saying...

'Extinct' fish caught by Indonesian fisherman
Last updated at 13:05 21 May 2007




An Indonesian fisherman has caught a coelacanth, an ancient fish once thought to have become extinct at the time of the dinosaurs, a fishery expert has said.


Yustinus Lahama and his son caught the fish on Saturday in the sea off North Sulawesi province and kept it at their house for an hour, said Grevo Gerung, a professor at the fisheries faculty at the Sam Ratulangi University.

After being told by neighbours it was a rare fish he took it back to the sea and kept it in a quarantine pool for about 17 hours before it died.

"If kept outside their habitat (60 metres or 200 ft below the sea), the fish can only live for two hours. But this fish lived for about 17 hours," Gerung said.

"We will look into why it had lived that long," he said.

The fish was 131 centimetres (about four feet) long and weighed 51 kg (112 lb), Gerung said.

In 1998, fishermen a caught another coelacanth in a deep-water shark net off northern Sulawesi.

That catch came 60 years after a member of the species was rediscovered on the east coast of South Africa.

Coelacanths are known from the fossil records dating back more than 360 million years, according to the Australian Museum Fish Web site.

Before 1938 they were believed to have become extinct approximately 80 million years ago, when they disappeared from the fossil record, it said.

Coelacanths are the only living animals to have a fully functional intercranial joint, which is a division separating the ear and brain from the nasal organs and eye.



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You can't compare a deep sea fish with an 8 foot ape that is supposed to roam northwest United States.

Everyone knows science's knowledge of the ocean is comparatively very limited.
 
No, not entirely they didn't. It was conservation that preserved them in certain regions. They survived on their own elsewhere by learning to avoid human beings. Or do you think there are no animals capable of such a thing?

We reintroduced them into Yellowstone, so it's no surprise that we'd keep tabs on them thereafter. It wouldn't be difficult to get funding to do so. Not comparable.
wolves are not capable of surviving by avoiding humans.

If we wanted them wiped out, they'd be gone in 2017. All of them.
 
wolves are not capable of surviving by avoiding humans.

If we wanted them wiped out, they'd be gone in 2017. All of them.
Sounds like you've spent a lot of time in the Yukon territory...
 
This kind of stuff happens quite a bit... Just saying...

'Extinct' fish caught by Indonesian fisherman
Last updated at 13:05 21 May 2007




An Indonesian fisherman has caught a coelacanth, an ancient fish once thought to have become extinct at the time of the dinosaurs, a fishery expert has said.


























































































































































































































Yustinus Lahama and his son caught the fish on Saturday in the sea off North Sulawesi province and kept it at their house for an hour, said Grevo Gerung, a professor at the fisheries faculty at the Sam Ratulangi University.

After being told by neighbours it was a rare fish he took it back to the sea and kept it in a quarantine pool for about 17 hours before it died.

"If kept outside their habitat (60 metres or 200 ft below the sea), the fish can only live for two hours. But this fish lived for about 17 hours," Gerung said.

That sounds totally believable. Water is very vast.









"We will look into why it had lived that long," he said.

The fish was 131 centimetres (about four feet) long and weighed 51 kg (112 lb), Gerung said.

In 1998, fishermen a caught another coelacanth in a deep-water shark net off northern Sulawesi.

That catch came 60 years after a member of the species was rediscovered on the east coast of South Africa.

Coelacanths are known from the fossil records dating back more than 360 million years, according to the Australian Museum Fish Web site.

Before 1938 they were believed to have become extinct approximately 80 million years ago, when they disappeared from the fossil record, it said.

Coelacanths are the only living animals to have a fully functional intercranial joint, which is a division separating the ear and brain from the nasal organs and eye.



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That sounds right Water is vast
 
wolves are not capable of surviving by avoiding humans.

If we wanted them wiped out, they'd be gone in 2017. All of them.

Of course. No animal on earth is capable of avoiding humans, amirite?

Even though the official war against the wolf had ended in the rest of the US shortly after 1960, hunters still searched for the few elusive remnant wolves remaining in the Great Lakes' region. Despite hunters' best efforts, the northern timber wolves held their ground and actually began to make a slight comeback. With the cover of a vast, dense forest and the immigration of dispersing wolves from Canada, Michigan and Wisconsin’s wolves persevered.

http://www.missionwolf.org/page/wild-wolf-history/

We had to wage a war on wolves to eradicate them from US states. Yet they persevered by retreating to denser forests and holding out there until we ceased in our efforts.
 
The crazy Jewish conspiracy gets me laughing the most. The absurd belief that the Protocols of Zion is real and that Jews somehow are trying to take over the world and are somehow 'managing' just that.

It is just so absurd to me and ignores reality of how small the Jewish population and how oppressed they are throughout history and still are.

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That sounds right Water is vast

So is the aggregate area of Canadian forest that no man in recorded history has ever foot explored. It's roughly the size of India.

The designated wilderness in the US is roughly the land area of California. That doesn't include all kinds of rural land that is very much forested, but simply isn't designated wilderness for various reasons, such as being private lands.

Shit, you could crash a small plane in the PNW with no one ever finding it, despite knowing you flew out that way.

Check the missing 411 documentary just to see how many humans still go missing out in the woods, never to be found.

Sure, the US is well developed, but if you think there isn't still a ton of forest in N America for animals to hide within, you need to think again. Simply being habitually nocturnal would significantly reduce the number of possible interactions with humans, as we're (modern man) horribly inept at dealing with dense forest even in the daytime.
 
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