What training to focus on to be a great fighter?

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  1. A-D

    A-D White Belt

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    Dear people, Dear fighters,
    this is my first thread so sorry if i posted this wrong.

    Currently doing;
    BJJ 4 times a week.
    Weightlifting & bodyweight training 2 times a week.
    Yoga 4 times a week.
    swimming 2 times a week.
    conditioning in the gym 2 times a week.

    I want to start doing kickboxing/muay thai to learn how to train better, harder and smarter and to learn standup fighting. Im thinking about doing that around 3-4 times a week.

    I'm an eighteen year old male, white belt in bjj, want to train as much as possible (my study allows me lots of free time)

    Now my question: What training would be best for me, next to 4 times BJJ and 4 times Standup fighting a week. Should i continue swimming? Lifting? Calisthenics? Yoga? Do more conditioning?

    I dont train for looks, and want to become great at fighting in general (MMA). I feel obsessed but guess thats not a bad thing? I want a body that can fight long and hard. Im very flexible but cannot do splits, average strength but do not know if this is worth improving. My cardio is also average but i guess needs alot of work.

    I love training and want to learn...

    thanks
     
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    stats?
     
  3. A-D

    A-D White Belt

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    Oh of course!

    Age: 18
    Height: 5" 10" (178 cm)
    weight: 154 lb (70 kg)
    Reach: 72" (184 cm, arm span)

    hope thats enough :)
     
  4. Cmart

    Cmart Aspiring Milo

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    That was a typo. He meant "squats."
     
  5. RR010V

    RR010V Yellow Belt

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    Id recommend for you to do more cardio since a good endurance is very important in a fight. (just look at diaz vs mcgregor) maybe some wrestling? this will also give you good strength and bjj and wrestling go together like peanutbutter and jelly. hope this helped and good luck!
     
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    I would give the exact opposite advice. Cut out all extra cardio/conditioning work and put that time/energy into skill work. Skill work takes the longest to develop and you will get a good amount of conditioning simply from that.
     
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    Cmart Aspiring Milo

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    Here's a question: What does your coach (trainer, instructor, sensei, whatever) say you should do? Do that.

    If your coach's advice makes no sense to you whatsoever, then you have a choice -- do it anyway or get a new coach.

    You're already in training with supervision and instruction by a professional, an expert, right? Why are you going to random other people for advice that may very well run contrary to what your coach wants you to do? Bring you question to him or her and follow what you're told.
     
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    mrblackcoffee White Belt

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    BJJ as many times a week. ( can also add stand up to this mix)
    Weightlifting & bodyweight training 2 times a week.
    Yoga maybe 1-2 times a week.

    Learn the skills, use lifting to prevent injuries and yoga for recovery/flexability.
    start adding the conditioning and power when you decide to compete.
     
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    ItsTimeToShrekYouUp Orange Belt

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    Are you trying to compete in mma? If so wrestle and do squats
     
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    Lol
     
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    JosephDredd Gold Belt

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    train BJJ, wrestling and stand-up fighting.

    worry about everything else when this is dialed in. like in a year or two or three
     
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    A-D White Belt

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    thanks everyone for fast responses,

    I am considering this;

    BJJ 5 times a week
    Wrestling 2 times a week
    then strength training 3 times a week (with an hour of rope jumping as warmup)
    swimming 2 times a week
    yoga 2 times a week

    that will be a total of 30 hours of sports per week, i can handle that. i can start kickboxing in 1-2 years. Then try to continue that with bjj and wrestling and compete alot. So maybe when i am 28-29 i can try to compete at professional level and earn my money with that. Then when im old and useless i will establish my own gym where i teach fighting to young students for the rest of my life.

    Yeaaa sure, IF everything goes right and IF i am really lucky. But see this could be my plan A, when this would fail i have enough backup plans to save my ass.


    BUT FIRST, let me reconsider everything with my trainer and parents and see what will come of it.

    we shall see if it will be the dream road or the save road
     
  13. HIMBOB

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    Skills develop and recede slowest.
    Strength and flexibility tie second.
    Cardio last.

    Split your trainingin that order
    For example out of 10 sessions, 6 skills, 2 strength 1 flexibility, 1 cardio.
     
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    Hour of jumping rope as a warm up seems silly. Thats a whole cardio session and therefore your lifting session will suffer.
     
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    So are you one of them who wont give their wife proper foreplay, because the bumping will suffer?

    All jokes aside, i prefer a good warmup, get the joints nice and wet. Maybe 30 min will do but if i can do 60 i do 60.
    and jumping rope is also not bad for shoulder and calve strength :)
     
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    HIMBOB Steel Belt

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    I am a busy man, currently foreplay consists of "he is asleep, get your kit off".

    Its a good exercise but when lifting focus on lifting.
     
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    A-D White Belt

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    So i spoke to my trainer and my physiotherapist. they gave me understandable advice, more rest because when training too much the body goes backwards really fast and chances of big injuries become higher.

    so what now? well im gonna try something like this:

    monday: yoga + wrestling
    tuesday: strength training + bjj
    wednessday: conditioning + bjj
    thursday: yoga + bjj
    friday: swimming + wrestling
    saturday: bjj + strength training
    sunday: yoga (rest day)

    also i will do more simple strength training, not 5 exercises per group so one hour workout instead of 2 hours.

    so when not counting yoga (not really a workout) this will be 14 hours of training per week. And i am gonna try to be more calm/focused during training instead of rushing it.
     
  18. Ilk

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    I d say drop the conditioning and swimming and go kickboxing. You are from Netherlands one of the best places to do kicck boxing.
     
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    yess i will do that in a few years but now focus on my ground work. Later i will drop swimming, do a bit less groundwork, no conditioning but do 3- 5 times kickboxing per week.
     
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    Do more bjj.
     

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