What makes Jon Jones great?

[tenniswhiz]

Roids

Until he proves otherwise

I don’t think he can even train twice a day for a camp, without roids to help him

 

[snackgod]

You can pretend Jones isn't gifted and say roids but it's a combination of athleticism and intelligence. Both of his brothers play pro football so it's obviously in his genes and its pretty rare for someone with his athletic ability to go into MMA. His reach is huge and he uses it very well. He also started very young in the game. He's good everywhere and most of the time better than his opponent everywhere. His creativity and fight IQ is off the charts.

and both busted for peds.

 

[snackgod]

He mixes things up better than anyone, ever. Boxing, TaeKwondo back kicks, spinning elbows, wrestling, eye pokes, head kicks, jujitsu, oblique kicks etc

That's the key in my opinion, his diversity. He is not really a beast at anything besides wrestling, but a master of integrating everything.

you forgot peds

 

[snackgod]

How is his wrestling inconsistent? Only Gustaffson and maybe Rampage for the first 3 rounds have been able to stop his takedowns. That's 2 out of 20+ fighters that he struggled to takedown. Jones has elite strength, elite fight iq, elite grappling, elite ground and pound, and elite control of distance. His chin is solid as well, which helps because he rarely is out of position to really get tagged. Jones only real weakness is his boxing defense, but his control of distance and kicking game negate that against most opponents. Inconsistent wrestling is laughable, when you outwrestle the likes of Ryan Bader, Chael Sonnen, and Daniel Cormier with ease you're at the top of the food chain when it comes to wrestling.

you forgot peds

 

[snackgod]

22-1 (via DQ). Many on those list are former champions.

That's what makes him great.

you forgot peds

 

[snackgod]

Jones is the best I've ever seen at using his physical attributes to his advantage. People talk about his athleticism, bit honestly he is not all that athletic compared to guys like gsp, yoel, randleman, etc. He is not particularly explosive, fast, or strong, and his boxing is pretty weak. However, he is masterful at mixing up his game and using the strengths that he does have.

you forgot peds

 

[RyanMctWrestler]

Wrestling, heart, and natural abilities in the striking department. Do you realize how long he was a world champ before he was even in a competitive fight? The first trouble he was in, when vitor had him in an arm bar, he just beasted out of it when almost every other fighter would've tapped. The only truly cometative fight he was ever in (against gus) he took over in the last rounds to secure the win. And after all those defenses he beat Dc twice (who i consider to be one of the most skilled ever)

 

[snackgod]

Creativity, Confidence, Strength and Size, Fight IQ.

you forgot peds

 

[snackgod]

Wrestling, Striking, incredible Fight IQ, Creativity, Mental Strength (He never breaks in a fight), Studies and knows all his foes weaknesses. And his greatest weakness is himself and poor decision making outside the Octagon..

you forgot peds

 

[snackgod]

jj has a varied attack, u never know what hes gonna do, and hes always got a new move weve never seen. and hes good at everything. subs black belts, takes down olympians, outstrikes kickboxers

you forgot peds

 

[ermac88]

Jones fight IQ , ring awareness and creativity are simply off the chart.

His ability to analyze an opponents body, movement, weight distribution and balance is uncanny.

Silva, GSP and DC are greats.
Jones is from another planet

hopefully we can to witness his greatness again, even if it's Rizen or something.

 

[true_fan]

He uses eye pokes and reach to keep little fighters scared of losing their eyes and spam oblique kicks to keep them from momentum both dirty tactics from a dirty fighter, but the brainless think he is amazing!

 

[ermac88]

Jones stopped 7/8 of Cormier’s takedown attempts in their first match up while securing 3 takedowns in 5 attempts.

Cormier failed to secure any takedowns in there following bout.

Cormier’s wrestling has shut down every fighter he’s come across with the exception of Jones. We witnessed what a lesser wrestler looks like against DC in his most recent defense. Jones is easily the best wrestler at 205.

Jones has some of the best distance control we’ve seen as well. Simply having the reach doesn’t make you elite. Otherwise, Struve would be the GOAT. It’s how he uses it.

Everything ties to his IQ. Jones has the tools and physical attributes. What sets him apart is that he knows what to use and WHEN.

people talking about reach ignore Strive Gus and the handful of other tall mediocre/bad fighters

They don't understand what they are watching

 

[true_fan]

people talking about reach ignore Strive Gus and the handful of other tall mediocre/bad fighters

They don't understand what they are watching

Yeah but these guys you’re talking about don’t use eye pokes or dirty oblique kicks and steroids and coke and estrogen blockers and dick pills!

 

[ermac88]

Yeah but these guys you’re talking about don’t use eye pokes or dirty oblique kicks and steroids and coke and estrogen blockers and dick pills!

Gus does poke eyes.
and oblique kicks are legal

The other whiny nonsense is irrelevant to this specific response regarding "reach"

 

[TheVenom]

people talking about reach ignore Strive Gus and the handful of other tall mediocre/bad fighters

They don't understand what they are watching

He’s deliberately ignoring it, since I’ve mentioned Struve too. Dude is a troll lol

 

[true_fan]

Gus does poke eyes.
and oblique kicks are legal

The other whiny nonsense is irrelevant to this specific response regarding "reach"

There is a difference between 79 and 84.5 inch reach that is used as a weapon to blind people, don’t you think? Please take your logic to the troll land and enjoy trolling with the other trolls!

 

[Fedor>Cain]

You can pretend Jones isn't gifted and say roids but it's a combination of athleticism and intelligence. Both of his brothers play pro football so it's obviously in his genes and its pretty rare for someone with his athletic ability to go into MMA. His reach is huge and he uses it very well. He also started very young in the game. He's good everywhere and most of the time better than his opponent everywhere. His creativity and fight IQ is off the charts.

Jones isn't even all that athletically gifted. He's physically gifted for a fighter with long limbs and a good frame to put on muscle.

Athletically? He's pretty terrible. He's not explosive. Doesn't really have elite fast twitch movements or anything, isn't light on his feet, doesn't have elite reflexes for head movement, doesn't have power in his hands.

Jones is great because he is durable, has good cardio, is creative, has a high fight iq and doesn't wilt under pressure. It's the intagible part of fighting that makes Jones great. If he was relying on athletic ability, he would be fucked.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Length, wrestling, creativity & chin

Yeah, pretty much this. He is like Anderson Silvia but with an elite AF savage wrestling base. His creativity in the moment is off the chains, tho I felt it was better once he first came in to the UFC. And obviously the roids help with his confidence and creativity too, just like taking adderall helps you stay up and study for an exam.

 

[Thade2k]

eye pokez