What is going on in Burma?

[Thunderflash500]

Yet, Hollywood always portray monks as "devout, peaceful and calm" people. The stuff going on over there really says it all...

Sounds like Burma needs freedom. Time to send geologist over there to explore and examine Burma's natural resources.

Well, you're peaceful I'm assuming. So does that mean you'll let someone rape your wife? Are you a hypocrite for defending her with violence?

What's happening in Burma has nothing to do with Buddism. They are buddists. They aren't cucks.

What's funny is that western nations have killed Millions of Muslims. Invaded at least 5 nations I can think of. Supplied weapons and money to promote larger death tolls in others. Yet Burma invaded 0 countries, only deals with their own country, and people are attacking Buddism saying how violent and fake they are? The hypocrisy is extreme.

You only hear the Liberal fake news side of the story. You don't hear anything about the Muslims doing anything wrong.

 

[Quipling]

They are not Buddhists because they are brutalising innocent people . Buddhism does not advocate nor support genocide and such barbaric behavior. Buddhism for the Burmese is just a proxy for ethnic identity. Just because someone calls themselves Buddhist or Christian does not make them so, if they live in a manner that is anti-Christian or anti-Buddhist.

This is a no-true-scotsman argument. One might as well say that anyone who does an act isn't a member of the religion for which that act is a sin: clearly a nonsensical position. These are practicing buddhists who are also committing genocide. The fact that buddhism does not endorse genocide does not make them not-buddhists; at most, it makes them not very observant buddhists, like christians who covet asses.

You're right in that this is an ethnic conflict, not a religious one. But leave the apologetics aside.

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

I visited Burma in 2014 illegally while I was in Thailand.

Crazy, violent history there.

 

[SensaiRambo]

Militant Buddhists murdering innocent Muslim folks - women & children alike. I personally know Buddhist folks here that are really distraught by this shit & they have been for years.

this is in Myanmar & Myanmar alone. you can't blame all followers of Buddhism.

Historically that has not been the case, I remember a thread on here were some clown tried to point out that Muslims were a persecuted group in Burma, but they are 4% of the population, demand special rights and caused a few riots led by monks after a few brutal gang rapes. Monks are peaceful people in Burma, but enough is eventually enough.

 

[Thunderflash500]

You support the genocide , from the looks of your passionate posts. Is it because you just hate all Muslims or is it motivated by solidarity with East Asians and hatred for South Asians . Having read about Asian attitudes and conflicts, it seems a lot of East Asians hate South Asians and some South Asians hate East Asians, purely for racial / pheonotypic reasons. The Pashtuns in Pakistan and Afghanistan hate the Hazara, and good part of this hate is based on the East Asian appearance of the Hazara. Some Indians hate Indians from North East Asia based on the later's phenotype. And a lot of Far East Asians hate the dark skin and features of a lot of South Asians.


Your excuse can be used to justify colonial Christian american treatment of Natives and Blacks. The Rohinga have been brutalised for a long time. What would anyone do if they were constantly being subjected to draconian behavior by another group. Is it any surprise that a tiny number of Rohinga decided enough is enough and took up arms. It is propaghanda to claim the Rohinga declared holy war, because they didn't and are not the instigators. The Burmese are literally practicising a scorced earth policy, burning down entire Rohinga villages, slaughtering innocent men, women and children, torturing and raping them.

They are not Buddhists because they are brutalising innocent people . Buddhism does not advocate nor support genocide and such barbaric behavior. Buddhism for the Burmese is just a proxy for ethnic identity. Just because someone calls themselves Buddhist or Christian does not make them so, if they live in a manner that is anti-Christian or anti-Buddhist.

Saying they aren't buddist is sort of childish. Under this way of thinking no group in the entire world is what they say they are because under some circumstance they may do things that don't perfectly align with their general belief system. It's like saying Europe was never primarily Christian because not everyone acted as Jesus Christ.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bashir-threatens-jihad-on-myanmar-buddhists-20130503-2iyfw.html

The reason I support Myanmar is because they are Buddists, and their own nation. They shouldn't haven't to give ONE SINGLE INCH to people who worship foreign gods. Especially violent foreign gods. There are Christians churches in Yangon. No problem. The problem is not Buddism. It's not Christianity. It's Islam. They should convert and adopt the culture of other people in the area if they want to live in Myanmar. Not every nation should adopt suicidal policies to please the U.N. and bureaucrats in Brussels.

 

[MicroBrew]

This is a no-true-scotsman argument. One might as well say that anyone who does an act isn't a member of the religion for which that act is a sin: clearly a nonsensical position. These are practicing buddhists who are also committing genocide. The fact that buddhism does not endorse genocide does not make them not-buddhists; at most, it makes them not very observant buddhists, like christians who covet asses.

You're right in that this is an ethnic conflict, not a religious one. But leave the apologetics aside.

I don't agree that fallacy works because we are not talking about an individual, but the culture as a whole. How can they be practicising Buddhists if they aren't faithfull to a central tenent of Buddhism. They are only overtly practicising, just like the White supremacists who attend church and claim to believe Jesus is the messiah.

 

[superpunch]

Burma: the home of Lethwei (Bare knuckle muay thai with headbutts -- the art of 9 limbs)

 

[MicroBrew]

Saying they aren't buddist is sort of childish. Under this way of thinking no group in the entire world is what they say they are because under some circumstance they may do things that don't perfectly align with their general belief system. It's like saying Europe was never primarily Christian because not everyone acted as Jesus Christ.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bashir-threatens-jihad-on-myanmar-buddhists-20130503-2iyfw.html

The reason I support Myanmar is because they are Buddists, and their own nation. They shouldn't haven't to give ONE SINGLE INCH to people who worship foreign gods. Especially violent foreign gods. There are Christians churches in Yangon. No problem. The problem is not Buddism. It's not Christianity. It's Islam. They should convert and adopt the culture of other people in the area if they want to live in Myanmar. Not every nation should adopt suicidal policies to please the U.N. and bureaucrats in Brussels.

They are not true to the central tenent of Buddhism. We are not talking about small discrepensies here but the central tenent.

Buddhism is also foreign to Myanmar and ironically emerged from people racially similar to the Rohinga.

This isn't really about Islam, it is race. If the Rohinga were Hindus or Buddhists or Christians, the Burmnese would still be persecuting them and trying to ethnically cleanse them.

Why are you bringing in the statements by non-Rohinga Islamists on Jihad? It has nothing to do with the Rohinga, who as a culture has not waged Jihad on the Burmese nor partook in any international jihad.

So you support someone just because they are Buddhists, regardless if they are right or wrong. Well thanks for admittng your opinion is based on a bias and not on what actually transpires. The Japanese during WW2 were Buddhist and Shinto, so do you support their war time imperial actions?

 

[7437]

I would say im surprised by the number of people here supporting burning infants, but im not at all surprised.

 

[Thunderflash500]

Burma: the home of Lethwei (Bare knuckle muay thai with headbutts -- the art of 9 limbs)

This is amazing

 

[Thunderflash500]

I would say im surprised by the number of people here supporting burning infants, but im not at all surprised.

Oh yea, I just love burning babies.

 

[Thunderflash500]

They are not true to the central tenent of Buddhism. We are not talking about small discrepensies here but the central tenent.

Buddhism is also foreign to Myanmar and ironically emerged from people racially similar to the Rohinga.

This isn't really about Islam, it is race. If the Rohinga were Hindus or Buddhists or Christians, the Burmnese would still be persecuting them and trying to ethnically cleanse them.

Why are you bringing in the statements by non-Rohinga Islamists on Jihad? It has nothing to do with the Rohinga, who as a culture has not waged Jihad on the Burmese nor partook in any international jihad.

Doubt it. There are over a dozen main ethnic groups. Hundreds of minor ethnic groups. Burmese is just the most powerful.

 

[Gervinho]

I would say im surprised by the number of people here supporting burning infants, but im not at all surprised.

A lot of racist here get off seeing dark people/muslims suffer. Dont care what sex or age they are

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

The bad thing is the Rohingyas have been abused for too long and now they are becomming radicalized too this will just not end well.

Already isn't for them..

 

[Thunderflash500]

So you support someone just because they are Buddhists, regardless if they are right or wrong. Well thanks for admittng your opinion is based on a bias and not on what actually transpires. The Japanese during WW2 were Buddhist and Shinto, so do you support their war time imperial actions?

You equate sorting out your own nation with imperialism?

 

[MicroBrew]

Doubt it. There are over a dozen main ethnic groups. Hundreds of minor ethnic groups. Burmese is just the most powerful.

It is about race, the Burmese in their own words have indicated this. The others ethnics while having conflict with the Burmese are not facing the kind of treatment the Rohinga are. Burmese nationalists have repeatedly stated their opposition to the Rohinga is based on their Bengali ancestral origins. Aung San Suki herself deliberately does not even used the term Rohinga, because of her nationalist sympathies.

It wouldn't matter if the Rohinga were not Muslims, they would still be getting killed and cleansed.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

A lot of racist here get off seeing dark people/muslims suffer. Dont care what sex or age they are

From what I've seen in this forum.. there's alot of racists that get off on seeing white folks suffer too. Don't care what sex or age they are.


2 sides of the same worthless coin.

 

[MicroBrew]

You equate sorting out your own nation with imperialism?

The Rohinga are also people of that nation. Just because the Burmese do not see it as such, does not mean they(Rohinga) are not. Whites historically did not consider Blacks and Natives as Americans .

If you think it is justified for the Burmese to create a racially pure state then it should be fine for White Americans to kick out all the Asians who emmigrated into the US from the 1800s onwards. So do you support deportation of all Asian Americns ? Do you support India kicking out all the Tibeto-Burman people living there?

 

[Seaside]

Hopefully brothers from indonesia go over there and start blowing these buddist scumbags up.

So you want muslim extremists in Indonesia to go commit terrorism in Burma?

 

[Thunderflash500]

The Rohinga are also people of that nation. Just because the Burmese do not see it as such, does not mean they(Rohinga) are not. Whites historically did not consider Blacks and Natives as Americans .

If you think it is justified for the Burmese to create a racially pure state then it should be fine for White Americans to kick out all the Asians who emmigrated into the US from the 1800s onwards. So do you support deportation of all Asian Americns ? Do you support India kicking out all the Tibeto-Burman people living there?

Myanmar is not racially pure. It's the opposite of a racially pure state. But when one group wants their own state, based on a desert religion, it's time to end the nonsense. If American Asians demand we give them Arizona I say we deport them.