What does the may/mac say about the the level of striking in MMA?

[Paradigm]

I personally think that it shows how big the gap is in striking between boxers and a fighters.
I saw one of the most defensive and safe boxers ever walk down and bully an MMA fighter who is regarded as a KO artist.

Difference in striking or boxing?

I doubt Floyd could handle old Buakaw in 2017 in an MT rules fight...but that's striking, not boxing.

 

[Uchi Mata]

Mac's stance and fundamentals, boxing-wise, were not great. He's a tremendous athlete and was able to get by on that and his size for a few rounds. But he should have brought in some real boxing trainers and not the yes man crew he had. Things like chin down, hands up, should be instinctual and were not for him. Nor was he turning his hips on punches, so most of his power was all arms; he's leaving all the power from the legs and posterior chain out. Most of his MMA knockouts are when he is coming forwards, using that momentum in his punch. He could not do that backpedaling. If he had proper technique he could have stood his ground in spots and turned his hips into the punches and brought some power that would have slowed Floyd's pursuit down. A lot of this is basic stuff he could have been working on in camp instead of that gimmicky stance switching.

That's simply not true. His best punch is a counter left off his back foot against an advancing opponent. He mostly comes forward to draw the counter. That's how he KOed Alvarez and Aldo, and how he first hurt most of his prior opponents.

 

[j123]

Difference in striking or boxing?

I doubt Floyd could handle old Buakaw in 2017 in an MT rules fight...but that's striking, not boxing.

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[BringBackTRTforFairness]

It says nothing about MMA it shows how lousy boxing is and previously MMA fighters have shown how lousy K1 kickboxing is. No one made authentic Muay Thai look lousy because its not, its everything we imagine it is, boxing and K1 doesn't live up to what we expected as far as the standard of effectiveness they get to as specialists in striking.

Put Connor in with a Muay Thai pro under thai rules, see what happens

 

[freaky]

Should I take MMA or boxing? Dana White made me think I need MMA but now idk..MMA just lost to boxing. Is boxing the best?

 

[Paradigm]

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Fine...ANY version of Floyd vs old man Buakaw.

 

[CamMan14]

Difference in striking or boxing?

I doubt Floyd could handle old Buakaw in 2017 in an MT rules fight...but that's striking, not boxing.

I said striking meaning any form of striking whether it be kickboxing, boxing, muay thai.

 

[freaky]

Even the highest level MMA, muay thai or whatever striking will all lose to a boxer in boxing. But the moment you give them 1 extra form of attack, whether it be knee, elbow, kicks, or whatever, the boxer will die. Boxers are just not trained in anything else. So they won't see the other attacks coming and won't know how to defend against it.

 

[Paradigm]

I said striking meaning any form of striking whether it be kickboxing, boxing, muay thai.

Since the Mercer/Sylvia vid has been posted so many times in the heavies already, I'll just leave this here:



On a serious note...you really think Floyd would have the same success under even just Muay Thai or even K-1 rules? I'm not even going to mention MMA...

 

[j123]

Since the Mercer/Sylvia vid has been posted so many times in the heavies already, I'll just leave this here:



On a serious note...you really think Floyd would have the same success under even just Muay Thai or even K-1 rules? I'm not even going to mention MMA...

Clinch clinic. And strikes to the leg (kicks and knees)

That feeling when you clinch up and in a fraction of a second you realize that they don't know how to clinch..... priceless

 

[CamMan14]

Since the Mercer/Sylvia vid has been posted so many times in the heavies already, I'll just leave this here:



On a serious note...you really think Floyd would have the same success under even just Muay Thai or even K-1 rules? I'm not even going to mention MMA...

No he wouldn't have the same success. Don't see what that has to do with the comparison between the levels of boxing in MMA and the levels of boxing in actual boxing though.

 

[Paradigm]

No he wouldn't have the same success. Don't see what that has to do with the comparison between the levels of boxing in MMA and the levels of boxing in actual boxing though.

You said striking, not boxing. Evidently you think boxers would just walk into Muay Thai and do fine with just boxing and nothing else. I'm here saying you are mistaken.

What happened on Saturday was boxing...not striking as most people regard it. Boxing is striking but the most limited ruleset of striking.

I personally think that it shows how big the gap is in striking between boxers and a fighters.
I saw one of the most defensive and safe boxers ever walk down and bully an MMA fighter who is regarded as a KO artist.

I said striking meaning any form of striking whether it be kickboxing, boxing, muay thai.

 

[zapataxiv]

Difference in striking or boxing?

I doubt Floyd could handle old Buakaw in 2017 in an MT rules fight...but that's striking, not boxing.

come on man buakaw would be too cowardly to face floyd in anything but a full moo tie match.
in K-1 rules he gets embarrassed like the second Masto match after the humiliation ends buakaw leaves moo tie and turns pop-star.

in full Moo Tie rules floyd outworks Buakaw in the clinch destroying a whole country martial tradition over 5 rounds.

 

[kenji goh]

come on man buakaw would be too cowardly to face floyd in anything but a full moo tie match.
in K-1 rules he gets embarrassed like the second Masto match after the humiliation ends buakaw leaves moo tie and turns pop-star.

in full Moo Tie rules floyd outworks Buakaw in the clinch destroying a whole country martial tradition over 5 rounds.

hahaha Really funny post. Thanks!

 

[Paradigm]

come on man buakaw would be too cowardly to face floyd in anything but a full moo tie match.
in K-1 rules he gets embarrassed like the second Masto match after the humiliation ends buakaw leaves moo tie and turns pop-star.

in full Moo Tie rules floyd outworks Buakaw in the clinch destroying a whole country martial tradition over 5 rounds.

 

[Bekim]

But isn't Muay Thai just kickboxing with a different name........

 

[Paradigm]

But isn't Muay Thai just kickboxing with a different name........

 

[Bekim]

come on man buakaw would be too cowardly to face floyd in anything but a full moo tie match.
in K-1 rules he gets embarrassed like the second Masto match after the humiliation ends buakaw leaves moo tie and turns pop-star.

in full Moo Tie rules floyd outworks Buakaw in the clinch destroying a whole country martial tradition over 5 rounds.

As the nickname for pig or pork is Moo, in Thai, I'm not sure what you are trying to get at....

Is this Tie made of Bacon.......

 

[Pugilistic]

Absolutely. I did some kickboxing in an MMA gym before moving on to Muay Thai and boxing, the training in MT and especially boxing was completely different and IMO far better since they really build the fundamentals from the ground up. In boxing it was stance, posture, basic movement, and conditioning exercises until all the above was solid before we learned to throw any punches. Then we learned the jab, proper stance & footwork for the jab, then the same for the 2, then how to move when throwing the 1-2.

Kickboxing in the MMA gym? Oh boy. I think they spent 10 minutes on stance and they were teaching us how to throw punches before we learned any footwork. There was a lot of training on hitting shit and moving around but the fundamentals were never taught from the ground up like they were in boxing.

My trainer goes to Japan quite often because of the cross over events involving fighters from Korea and Japan. He says there are boxing gyms in Japan that won't teach you how to throw a jab until you can make a stance move around properly. Won't teach you the hook until you can throw a 1-2 perfectly. You'll apparently have fighter practicing just the 1-2 for a year before they can progress to other things. Could be a reason why Japanese fighters are doing so well.

 

[zapataxiv]

But isn't Muay Thai just kickboxing with a different name........

NO NO NO NO NO insert laughing thai lady gif...

moo tie was invented by happy day sitting runes (Thai names i know so complicated).
basically it was foot fencing with heavy hugging sessions, that was modified by romeo Dekkers who came in and beat all the thai's at their own game showing them the importance of punching.
the japanese also came in, they had guys like tokyo sushikara mixing moo tie with japanese kung fu. the japanese kung fu was watered down from its effective base and renamed kickboxing.

As the nickname for pig or pork is Moo, in Thai, I'm not sure what you are trying to get at....

Is this Tie made of Bacon.......

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and moo (mu) in chinese means wood in the woods they have pigs and to live in the woods you need to be tough so protein from pigs it all ties together illuminati