What do you think is the ultimate purpose of the expertly crafted divisions among people?

[Goonerview]

The "elites" aren't dividing is, humans are tribal by nature and will group together. This is deep in our DNA.

 

[Helden]

Intergalactic psychic vampires obviously

 

[trident]

 

[ManCityFC9]

Countries are strong when they are united; Globalists know this, so they make it harder by playing identity politics, creating divisions among the people of a country with false narratives, and more recently flooding historically white countries with refugees. A united country can be a scary thing - look at Germany. In order to rule over us effectively, they need us conflicted with each other and ill-educated. That will make us good little consumers and materialists without having the mental capacity to figure out that we are being duped.

True statement from my perception.
-Fundamental National Socialism ideology was based against this threat of dividing countries/nations.
--Seems debt and consumerism that is currently flourishing around the world has been predicted 85 or so years ago.

Personally I do not buy into the divisions(as stated in the OP) and see some positive outcomes in a diverse, religious-free (I am not sure if peace can be achieved with religion being dominant), population (whether nation-state, country, or global level);
If this can be managed without such, corporate enslavement, consumerism, and debt, but with a focus on sharing technological and knowledge gains with everyone, I think this can truly evolve humanity.

 

[superpunch]

So you're saying they're trying to play god? How is that doing good for humanity?

Because humanity left to its own devices is self-destructive and now we have nuclear and biological weapons

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Because humanity left to its own devices is self-destructive and now we have nuclear and biological weapons

Exchanging one government for another isn't a magic solution to the world's problems.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

all a way of controlling people

religion, straight up, was designed and clearly implemented to control the poor. Keep them productive in the hopes of an afterlife rather than revolting and undergoing revolution in TRL. I mean who's religious even to this day, largely? poor and lower middle class as the rich don't need false hopes, they run shit

Same thing w/ some of these politicial movements, it's a distraction. I mean perhaps BLM truly thinks police brutality is a more serious issue than say black on black crime (patently absurd); perhaps third wave feminists really believe what they do, etc....

However, that distraction is preventing those people from actually improving their own situation by their own modus operandi, but through the implementation of government policy or intervention of others.

Being split along political lines, while natural due to wedge issues and other things, also prevents people from realizing that virtually ALL politicans are rich, aren't that different on the wide political spectrum, and clearly aren't trying to actually help anyone but themselves


A Nation of Sheep IOW

 

[Makani]

Cynically, you've seen the IDL explanation, which has merit. I prefer to think it's just generations of isolated opinions. If you want to guess what someone believes, and who they will believe, look at their parents. Some people change their views over a lifetime, but that usually takes prolonged periods of a different personal economic status or exposure to diverse environments in a positive fashion. I think people profit tremendously from this divide in the West, but I don't they are both maker and beneficiary, at least outside of trying to solidify already present blocks. The divide between shapers and shapees is quote sharp as well, and ever changing.

 

[panamaican]

You know what people should do? They should stand up against the divisions. They should stop categorizing themselves as different from others and help each other succeed.

That would teach those sowers of discord that we won't be trfiled with.

Wait, what? People from certain parts of the world are inferior to us and can't be expected to join us in society? Hmm, that doesn't seem to be some outsiders crafting division among people. It seems like some people want to craft divisions between themselves and other people. Then they turn around and blame a mythical group of elites for everything that doesn't happen the way they want.

The elites are trying to trick us into accepting diversity and overlooking differences between people/cultures/ethnicities. AND the elites are trying to trick us into expertly crafted divisive groupings.

Seems like the elites are schizophrenic.

 

[superpunch]

Exchanging one government for another isn't a magic solution to the world's problems.

I agree. It's why I support the technological borg-like hivemind that will be forced upon humanity to end individualism when the singularity occurs. We won't need governments anymore because we will all be the same sentient individual.

If you believe in individualism, you need governments to control it. On the other hand, we're about to evolve past that.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

I agree. It's why I support the technological borg-like hivemind that will be forced upon humanity to end individualism when the singularity occurs. We won't need governments anymore because we will all be the same sentient individual.

If you believe in individualism, you need governments to control it. On the other hand, we're about to evolve past that.

Yet you couldn't predict the winners of last weeks fight card.

 

[superpunch]

Wait, what? People from certain parts of the world are inferior to us and can't be expected to join us in society? Hmm, that doesn't seem to be some outsiders crafting division among people. It seems like some people want to craft divisions between themselves and other people. Then they turn around and blame a mythical group of elites for everything that doesn't happen the way they want.

The problem is that this is true.

In most of the world, people have 6th grade educations, are barely or are not literate, and believe in all kinds of superstitions like witches, vampires, etc. They hold backwards, outdated morality as well about things such as murder, rape, race, religion, and homosexuality. They're bad people.

They're not bad because of genetics; it's because of their environment which is their culture. But they're still bad people and are inferior to you. They can't be expected to join you in society and you shouldn't welcome them or the culture that made them that way into your society.

 

[panamaican]

The problem is that this is true.

In most of the world, people have 6th grade educations, are barely or are not literate, and believe in all kinds of superstitions like witches, vampires, etc. They hold backwards, outdated morality as well about things such as murder, rape, race, religion, and homosexuality. They're bad people.

They're not bad because of genetics; it's because of their environment which is their culture. But they're still bad people and are inferior to you. They can't be expected to join you in society and you shouldn't welcome them or the culture that made them that way into your society.

So, it's not the elites expertly crafting divisions among people?

 

[superpunch]

So, it's not the elites expertly crafting divisions among people?

They're not crafting them. They're exploiting them. Divide and conquer until there's nothing left to conquer. Then, humanity is united as one.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Divide and conquer.

This.

The greatest con of all time is getting people to think that the difference between groups is bigger than the difference within groups.

After traveling across 6 continents, the biggest joke is that average joe think they are more like their masters than they are average joes of other countries. It is truly the oldest (and best) trick in the book.

 

[Fawlty]

lmao @ "expertly crafted"

 

[panamaican]

They're not crafting them. They're exploiting them. Divide and conquer until there's nothing left to conquer. Then, humanity is united as one.

Ah, the elite are exploiting someone else's expertly crafted divisions so that they can then unite people together. And this is more effective than simple uniting them together in the first place. The elites need a better strategist.

 

[HomerThompson]

Divide and conquer. Is this a real question?

 

[superpunch]

Ah, the elite are exploiting someone else's expertly crafted divisions so that they can then unite people together. And this is more effective than simple uniting them together in the first place. The elites need a better strategist.

How else would you unite Americans with Africans or Muslims other than conquest? If there was a way around having to use armies then conquerors would have used those methods milleniums ago.

 

[Fawlty]

All it takes to divide people is a river. Or different a color of sports clothes. Or a different god. Or a different set of governing principles. Or a different diet. All of those things sow distrust and potential violence in a given situation. It's almost arbitrary.

If it were truly expertly crafted, how is it that rights are slowly becoming more universal? How is the map of the world becoming more stable? How is it that societies were more strongly divided in the distant past? Expertise has nothing to do with our tendencies to divide ourselves. It has been these "elites" who have relatively more influence on these processes, sometimes because of wealth & power and sometimes because of their intellect or skills. Will you also thank them for the progress? Or do you operate under the assumption that you achieved all of that yourself? Did you author the Bill of Rights?

But this doesn't play out as a puppet show. We, humans, are the dividers and the divided. Just because you as an individual have relatively little control over your impulses and little power in your environment does not pit you against others. You pit yourself against others. The influence of your parents and role models- and your inherited biology- are the closest things to expert manipulators of your circumstances.