What do you think about this fantasy 150lbs Tournament?

Discussion in 'Muay Thai and Kickboxing' started by Julius_Caesar, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

    Julius_Caesar
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,517
    Likes Received:
    743
    A 16 man tournament spaced out over a few months. Kickboxing rules in a cage with MMA gloves. 3 x 3 min rounds:

    4 MuayThai Fighters:
    Sittichai Sitsongpeenong
    Superbon Banchamek
    Yodsanklai Fairtex
    Littewada Sor. Nipapon

    4 Kickboxers:
    Giorgio Petrosyan
    Marat Grigorian
    Robin Van Roosmalen
    Qiu Jianliang

    4 Boxers:
    Errol Spence
    Keith Thruman
    Kell Brook
    Manny Pacquiao (a little small and outta prime but still good enough and used to fighting bigger opponents)

    4 MMA Fighters:
    Conor McGregor
    Jose Aldo
    Max Holloway
    Cody Garbrandt (like pacquiao he's a little small but he has fought at 145 and I heard he stands around 160 so dont think 150 will be too much for him. He's undefeated and still one of the best strikers in MMA today)

    I would love to see something like this. The boxers would have problems defending kicks but I think they still can be very effective if they prepare well especially Pacquiao and Errol Spence. The MMA fighters listed are not as talented in striking but they have the advantage of it being in a cage with MMA gloves.

    I can only imagine the type of attention and money this could generate. Fighters from Brazil, USA, China, Philippines, Thailand and Europe with all their countries and fan bases backing them. They could use the theme "who is pound for pound the best striker in the world" which is fair considering some of the fighters listed. Who would you have winning this?
     
    #1
  2. kwankaodaddy Orange Belt

    kwankaodaddy
    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2013
    Messages:
    256
    Likes Received:
    17
    I think that impossible.
     
    #2
  3. AbeRudder Blue Belt

    AbeRudder
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2011
    Messages:
    878
    Likes Received:
    638
    Sittichai/Yod final

    While there haven't been any particularly good boxers try their hand in kickboxing that I know of, the boxers that did fight in K1 generally didn't do very well at all. Aside from Kalakoda and he was pretty well versed in kickboxing.
     
    #3
    Julius_Caesar likes this.
  4. Kanka Brown Belt

    Kanka
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2013
    Messages:
    3,830
    Likes Received:
    1,266
    Suggestion for boxer:
    Jomthong
     
    #4
  5. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

    Julius_Caesar
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,517
    Likes Received:
    743
    I mean there is like a 0.1% chance of something like this ever happening but we can still dream. Lets just say some Chinese Billionaire teamed up with some promotion. It could be a smart investment considering some of the names. Even if you change some of the fighters the whole idea of MMA fighers vs Boxers vs Kickboxers vs MT fighters would sell if you have a few big names.
     
    #5
    kwankaodaddy likes this.
  6. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

    Julius_Caesar
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,517
    Likes Received:
    743
    Was thinking about switching him for Littewada but he's been looking horrible lately. He's no longer motivated.
     
    #6
  7. oyvindt Purple Belt

    oyvindt
    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2015
    Messages:
    1,698
    Likes Received:
    676
    giorgio with mma gloves? i can hear his hand breaking from here.
    i like the dream!
    but in mine there wouldn't be mma and no cage..i need to see the ring but yes to mma gloves
    i also don't want rvr because i feel an enormous antipathy for that person.
     
    #7
  8. Kanka Brown Belt

    Kanka
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2013
    Messages:
    3,830
    Likes Received:
    1,266
    Any boxer that decides to fight in kickboxing will probably be in the same shape of Jomthong and of Jomthong whos is a complete fighter has trouble how do you even expect boxers to win consistently? Maybe a few KOs but wouldn't expect much
     
    #8
  9. Enriko davidson White Belt

    Enriko davidson
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2016
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    41
    How would that be fair? Plenty of better strikers in Thailand.
     
    #9
  10. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

    Julius_Caesar
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,517
    Likes Received:
    743
    I had this debate with Snubnoze a while back. Someone made a thread about who the best striker in the world is or something along those lines. He said Petrosyan and I said Yodwicha based off the fact that no matter how slick Petrosyan is Yodwicha will dominate by constantly clinching up and not give Petro any air but I was wrong because technically the clinch is not striking. Its a form of grappling and therefore kickboxing is more of a striking sport than MuayThai.

    You can have MuayThai style fighters fighting within kickboxing but by definition when we talk about who the best striker is in the world it would have to be how we see them within kickboxing and unfortunately we haven't seen all those Thai's in Thailand compete under kickboxing rules. What we do have is fighters like Sittichai, Yodsanklai, Superbon, Petrosyan and Roosmalen who I all personally feel are all at the top in kickboxing so whoever wins a tournament with those fighters in it deserves to be called the best striker in the world.
     
    #10
  11. Snubnoze707 High Level

    Snubnoze707
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2009
    Messages:
    16,066
    Likes Received:
    2,564
    Wait a minute when did I ever say Petrosyan is the best striker in the world? I think you got things twisted there, bud. Gun to my head I'm giving that to Saenchai...
     
    #11
  12. oyvindt Purple Belt

    oyvindt
    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2015
    Messages:
    1,698
    Likes Received:
    676
    the debate was about the kb goat..
     
    #12
    Julius_Caesar likes this.
  13. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

    Julius_Caesar
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,517
    Likes Received:
    743
    Can't remember what the thread was about but we were debating about Petro and Yodwicha. And Saenchai is no longer the best striker in the world. He's out of his prime.
     
    #13
  14. Snubnoze707 High Level

    Snubnoze707
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2009
    Messages:
    16,066
    Likes Received:
    2,564
    If that was the case then LOL @ Yodwicha.

    My KB GOAT is Aerts, always and forever.
     
    #14
  15. Kanka Brown Belt

    Kanka
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2013
    Messages:
    3,830
    Likes Received:
    1,266
    Why does it have to be in a cage? Would prefer if it was in a ring
     
    #15
    UWanaPlayDaGame likes this.
  16. Kanka Brown Belt

    Kanka
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2013
    Messages:
    3,830
    Likes Received:
    1,266
    Just make them all fight in Muay Extreme. If you want to see "the best striker" you should include elbows too.
     
    #16
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2017
    kwankaodaddy likes this.
  17. Kanka Brown Belt

    Kanka
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2013
    Messages:
    3,830
    Likes Received:
    1,266
    What makes Yodwicha better than Sangmanee, Panpayak, Petmorrakot etc?
     
    #17
    UWanaPlayDaGame likes this.
  18. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

    Julius_Caesar
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,517
    Likes Received:
    743
    Doesn't have to be but there are so many combat promotions in the ring it might be good to switch it up. Create an atmosphere that is unique to other striking promotions.
     
    #18
  19. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

    Julius_Caesar
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,517
    Likes Received:
    743
    No it will put boxers and kickboxers at too much of a disadvantage. Its about balancing it all out so every type of fighter is somewhat comfortable.
     
    #19
  20. Kanka Brown Belt

    Kanka
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2013
    Messages:
    3,830
    Likes Received:
    1,266
    well then it would not be "best striker", it would just be "best kickboxer in a cage with mma gloves"
     
    #20
    kwankaodaddy likes this.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "fd5733925866a04e50edd70f38dfaa35"
monitoring_string = "603ac9fff68f23709f2a42bf5e29272b"