Yeah, I heard from my bud who used to work at a fitness gym in Stockton, CA back in the Lions Den days heyday, that the Lions Den sold steroids out of there allegedly. Please mods don't get me in trouble. I said "allegedly". But I guess it was common knowledge from the folks in the bodybuilding community around that area. And numerous stories I heard too, about Ken being a douche. Funniest I heard was that one time he went to the grocery store in the area, wearing a black leather vest, gold chain, workout striped speedos and workout shoes(like those old high top Otomix shoes back in day) and was walking around supermarket mean mugging and shopping. The funniest part....he had no shirt on under the vest lol.