What civilizations would be wiped out if this were 1,000s of years ago?

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  1. Prokofievian

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    I would add that this seems to have been the source of Roman power. It's codified into the Roman creation myth: Romulus fought the Sabines, and made them citizens in the same day, legend has it. Other city states demanded tribute. Rome demanded soldiers, and gave them a cut of the spoils. In that sense it was self propagating.

    I would actually draw a parallel to why America became what it was. People can become American much the same way that people could become Roman. The republic propagates because its increasing subjects have a stake in its propagation.

    Moreover, I would say that rampaging murder is a pretty stupid way to go about building a civilization, even if you're not going to grant citizenship to those you conquer. Is the goal to conquer ash?
     
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    Every civilization had the intelligence to aquire nukes?
     
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    Homer!

    Jack does this stuff sometimes too.

    *sigh*

    why couldn't we draw this out a bit? you'd make a boring matador.

    - IGIT
     
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    A civilization doesn't have intelligence in the classical sense, maybe if you personify the concept of a civilization and ascribe some kind of hive mind to it. I'd be okay with that.

    I thought you were talking about the situation today, but instead every general and leader is a bloodthirsty stereotype of Atilla The Hun and wants to murder and eradicate.

    Do you mean what would the entirety of history look like if at some unspecified point in history, people stopped or started having an eradication mentality and went on a genocide frenzy?

    Nobody knows.
     
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    The entire moral fabric of America is based on Roman values.
    All roads lead to Rome
     
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    My patience with @Bloodworth has worn thin over the last 18 months.
     
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    heya Bloody,

    i own, but ya, i have to go head in at the crack of noon to pitch in too.

    i'm late.

    have a good one, Bloodworth.

    - IGIT
     
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    You couldn't get two sentences without getting history wrong, I see.

    (1) It wasn't 300 days, it was 300 Spartans. 300 had nothing to do with time elapsed.
    (2) Like any empire going to "war" with one of its territories, the goal was to curb insurrection, not complete annihilation
    (3) The Persians were a comparatively tolerant and diplomatic world power. While they had great military might, they usually sought pragmatic ways to retain control without laying waste to territories, such as by allowing local cultural traditions, religion, and some level of local political variance
    (4) Total war is the epitome of economic waste and that was realized by many ancient civilizations. Total annihilation was reserved for symbolic and political victories, such as in the Servile Wars.
     
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  11. Bloodworth

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    God bless buddy. Keep up the good work.
     
  12. Bloodworth

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    Seems like ive seen a growing trend of people not liking you.
    And a yellow card . Man your really radicalizing.
     
  13. tonni

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    I'm pretty sure by "the 300 days" he means "days of the 300" as in the days in which the Spartans made their stand.
     
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    Don't bet on it.
     
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    Come on, there was a very popular movie that came out called 300. Even soccer moms know about the the battle of Thermopylae.
     
  18. tonni

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    You're right, maybe my opinion of him is a bit too low. I still wouldn't bet on it but I'll cross it off the list of dumb stuff he said.
     
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    You have a higher iq
     
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    If you look back at the large civilizations that have disappeared you will find that a majority of them died out due to environmental reason.
     

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