This is exactly what I am talking about. You're being ridiculously vicious, you're misinterpreting or misunderstanding what I am actually saying, and have apparently decided that I am a racist, and therefore nothing I say need be responded to with anything resembling a point.
Translation: it's divisive to say things about race white people don't like; we should unite as a people and avoid talking about things that minorities feel are important to address.
Come on, dude. I didn't say this and I didn't mean this. There's no need for you "translation" since I said exactly what I meant. There's no need to infer meaning. I'm right here; ask if you don't understand.
The grain of truth in this bullshit of yours is that blacks and whites could both stand to piss the other off a little less when engaging in these conversations. The crux of that though, is that people like you need to approach these conversations with an open mind.
That's an interesting thought. I'd like some numbers here. What size of minority population must a country reach before it is only sensible to oppress them and take away their rights as citizens?
Is this really what you thought I was saying? Honestly?
There is conflict in diverse populations. It is probably the most consistent truth about diverse populations.
That is reality. Acknowledge it and maybe you can actually begin to approach something resembling a solution.
No, I don't mean a "final solution".
The point was that your "America has a terrible track record when it comes to racism" was a mind-numbingly stupid statement to make. America has more races than other first world countries, so the fact that they have more racial conflict than other first world countries isn't really an observation that needs to be made, unless you can add more insight?
I'm assuming you can't, and that's why your entire response essentially amounts to sticking your fingers in your ears and knocking down strawmen.
Also, I am a minority, you idiot. Why on Earth would I advocate for policies that discriminate against minorities? I am distinctly aware of my vulnerability as a member of a minority population in a country with an extensive track record of racism and brutality.
Are you? What unique or relevant perspective do you bring to the conversation?
That is true. Let's not forget the commendable efforts at containing smallpox after the blankets had wiped out the native population. They didn't even really understand germ theory, but they did their best. Centuries ahead of science.
Was this an example of racism or an unethical means of conquest?
Awwwww, you got me there. good one. African Americans are really taking a self-centred view of this whole slavery thing. Too self-involved, imo. Can't see how it impacted hypothetical peoples who could have been just as convenient to enslave and brutalize.
What?
Make a point, don't just fire off sarcastic nothings.
Preferably, make a point that has something to do with what I said.
You might want to consider that you're on the wrong side of an argument when you're trying to find ways America's race-relations were superior to Nazi-fucking-Germany.
Your argument was that America was more racist than Nazi Germany. I wasn't trying to make an opposing argument, I was asking for evidence that your argument was honest or even worth making.
Apparently it was neither.
Voter ID laws. The Republican judge who passed it admitted that it's been only used to suppress votes and disenfhranchise black people and other minorities, something that makes him terribly regret passing the law.
There are a few things I don't understand about this one. First, the requirement of identification for voting seems like common sense to me, so I've never quite understood why it's not the standard in America.
Second, the fact that a racist would assume that it is beyond the ability of black people to get an ID is not surprising, but in reality, how are black people disproportionately prevented from getting an ID more than whites?
Either way, fair point. If it was passed with racist intentions, then it is an example of systemic (if ineffective) racism.
Do voter ID laws have discriminatory outcomes? Do you know?
Actually, the comparison I was making was that it was similarly appalling how long South Africa hung onto Apartheid. Do you disagree that it is appalling?
Of course it was appalling, you bumblefuck.
But, this does nothing to get around my criticism of the comparison. You're comparing 2017 America to apartheid South Africa.
Justify the comparison. What manifestations of racism in 2017 America are "similarly appalling" to the examples of it in South Africa from 1948 to 1991? 'Cos at the moment, that comparison makes you sound unhinged.
I agree. We should get upset when people who have historically had to fight for every voice they've ever had say things that white people don't like. Why disrupt a centuries-old tradition instead of having a nation confront the lingering remnants of its centuries-old attitude? Makes white people feel oppressed. So shut up minorities, unless you say things we like.
Grow up.
