Was Ubereem the best MMA fighter of all time?

[PrepareForGlory]

Alistair Overeem become Ubereem sometime around 2008 in Dream and ended in 2012 when he tested positive for PED's. During that time he went 10-0 in MMA with 9 finishes. The only non-finish was when a prime Werdum was literally begging him to not strike and to grapple. Also won the K1 Grand Prix and had K1 wins over Badr Hari, Peter Aerts x2, Tyrone Spong, and Gokhan Saki during that time frame.

It's not just who you beat it's how you beat them.

He kneed Fujita into oblivion and almost a coma.

He ragdolled a 265 lb Brett Rogers and beat the fuck out of him. The same Rogers who just knocked out 29 year old Arlovski and gave Fedor a tough fight.

He dispatched young stud Todd Duffee in seconds. The same Duffee who had 3 UFC wins in less than 3 minutes combined.

A prime Werdum was so scared all he could do to avoid being KO'd was flop around and beg Overeem to come to the ground the entire fight

He then kicked Lesnar so hard in the liver he made him quit the sport.

10-0 with 9 finishes (all in the first round)

Throw out all the P4P talk. Was a Prime 29-31 year old 265 lb Ubereem, a guy Joe Rogan called " genetically engineered to fuck your girlfriend", the best fighter of all-time? I think he might be. God I wish he never popped for roids and they just allowed these guys to juice up freely and give the fans the best fights possible.

 

[RawHawg]

 

[MikalP]

This thread gets me hot

 

[NikkiNeversleep]

He was a cheating monster for sure. Fun to watch though. Also a bizarrely handsome dude for someone who gets punched in the face for a living.

 

[AimedWithV]

Alistair Overeem become Ubereem sometime around 2008 in Dream and ended in 2012 when he tested positive for PED's. During that time he went 10-0 in MMA with 9 finishes. The only non-finish was when a prime Werdum was literally begging him to not strike and to grapple. Also won the K1 Grand Prix and had K1 wins over Badr Hari, Peter Aerts x2, Tyrone Spong, and Gokhan Saki during that time frame.

It's not just who you beat it's how you beat them.

He kneed Fujita into oblivion and almost a coma.

He ragdolled a 265 lb Brett Rogers and beat the fuck out of him. The same Rogers who just knocked out 29 year old Arlovski and gave Fedor a tough fight.

He dispatched young stud Todd Duffee in seconds. The same Duffee who had 3 UFC wins in less than 3 minutes combined.

A prime Werdum was so scared all he could do to avoid being KO'd was flop around and beg Overeem to come to the ground the entire fight

He then kicked Lesnar so hard in the liver he made him quit the sport.

10-0 with 9 finishes (all in the first round)

Throw out all the P4P talk. Was a Prime 29-31 year old 265 lb Ubereem, a guy Joe Rogan called " genetically engineered to fuck your girlfriend", the best fighter of all-time? I think he might be. God I wish he never popped for roids and they just allowed these guys to juice up freely and give the fans the best fights possible.

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He just had the biggest amount of juice, and it was probably the best quality.

His steroids fought instead of him, he himself doesn't deserve this title.

 

[The Pied Pooper]

I don' know about all that, but he made me question my sexuality the most.

 

[The guest]

Overeem isn’t.

Just sayin.

 

[BlastoiseDad]

Ah yes, Reem after being busted vs the paragon of sportsmanship, Boldenone-foot.

 

[MikalP]

Overeem isn’t.

Just sayin.

First time Overeem was out roided in a fight

 

[One MMA Fan]

He then kicked Lesnar so hard in the liver he made him quit the sport.

Please.. Brock was talking with his wife about leaving MMA before the fight even took place. Dude wasn't mentally up for that fight.

On topic: Ubereem is the ultimate glass cannon, able to take out anyone but same can happen to him it only takes a punch.

 

[NikkiNeversleep]

First time Overeem was out roided in a fight

Did you not see his fight with Bigfoot?

 

[PrepareForGlory]

That's not Ubereem. That was his first fight after his suspension and you could see his body had already changed significantly. And in that fight Bigfoot was on ALL the horsemeat he could eat.

 

[Gigaton Punch]

More like the most overhyped fighter in MMA history

Mostly fought cans and looked very human against the best opponent he faced in Werdum. I like how you tried to spin that fight as a positive though. Werdum outstruck Overeem any time he tried to but kept flopping to the floor for whatever reason. He also tore his knee early in the fight

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

Please.. Brock was talking with his wife about leaving MMA before the fight even took place. Dude wasn't mentally up for that fight.

On topic: Ubereem is the ultimate glass cannon, able to take out anyone but same can happen to him it only takes a punch.

I feel like his chin was stronger in the 'ubereem' phase.
Based on his K1 fights anyway

 

[ShinkanPo]

Ubereem has a funny head.

 

[MikalP]

Did you not see his fight with Bigfoot?

I have removed all traces from that shitshow in my memory. When did this happen? 1997?

 

[NikkiNeversleep]

I have removed all traces from that shitshow in my memory. When did this happen? 1997?

156

 

[3sumrock]

Economicalreem > ubereem

 

[PrepareForGlory]

More like the most overhyped fighter in MMA history

Mostly fought cans and looked very human against the best opponent he faced in Werdum. I like how you tried to spin that fight as a positive though. Werdum outstruck Overeem any time he tried to but kept flopping to the floor for whatever reason. He also tore his knee early in the fight

Hunt, Cro Cop, Duffee, Rogers, Werdum, Lesnar, Hari, Spong, Aerts, and Saki are cans? And we're talking about the 2009-2012 versions of these fighters. What planet you living on?

 

[bully4me]

Alistair Overeem become Ubereem sometime around 2008 in Dream and ended in 2012 when he tested positive for PED's. During that time he went 10-0 in MMA with 9 finishes. The only non-finish was when a prime Werdum was literally begging him to not strike and to grapple. Also won the K1 Grand Prix and had K1 wins over Badr Hari, Peter Aerts x2, Tyrone Spong, and Gokhan Saki during that time frame.

It's not just who you beat it's how you beat them.

He kneed Fujita into oblivion and almost a coma.

He ragdolled a 265 lb Brett Rogers and beat the fuck out of him. The same Rogers who just knocked out 29 year old Arlovski and gave Fedor a tough fight.

He dispatched young stud Todd Duffee in seconds. The same Duffee who had 3 UFC wins in less than 3 minutes combined.

A prime Werdum was so scared all he could do to avoid being KO'd was flop around and beg Overeem to come to the ground the entire fight

He then kicked Lesnar so hard in the liver he made him quit the sport.

10-0 with 9 finishes (all in the first round)

Throw out all the P4P talk. Was a Prime 29-31 year old 265 lb Ubereem, a guy Joe Rogan called " genetically engineered to fuck your girlfriend", the best fighter of all-time? I think he might be. God I wish he never popped for roids and they just allowed these guys to juice up freely and give the fans the best fights possible.

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