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Oh, TCK.
One descends from Abraham and the other from the Khazars. Two different people.
Oh, TCK.
I find it annoying when Americans refer to every black person as an African-American.One descends from Abraham and the other from the Khazars. Two different people.
I find it annoying when Americans refer to every black person as an African-American.
But Prince was the superior musician by far.Dancing and performing require talent and is an art.
MJ was the superior performer and the GOAT dancer.
My general rule is call people what they want to be called, but I cringe when Americans refer to non-American blacks as "African-American" because they're so used to mentally translating "black" to "AA."
The Khazar hypothesis is that Ashkenazi jews are descended from Turkic people in the Khazar Khanate who converted to Judaism in the 7th or 8th century. It's largely been refuted, but let's pretend it hasn't for the purpose of this conversation.One descends from Abraham and the other from the Khazars. Two different people.
I am that shredhead so thanks for the elbow in the face. Don't know of the top of my head who Holdsworth is. In terms of composition, one interesting observation is that Buckethead, long time candidate for best shredder, has an enormous discography of relatively acclaimed musically (not just technically, but there's that too) gripping stuff. And he's just getting better imo: this is 2 or 3 years old for instance.
Great stuff.
I refuse to use the term African American. I just go with black. If a black person is born here they are just as American as I am. If we give them a prefix, every person in America should have one as well.My general rule is call people what they want to be called, but I cringe when Americans refer to non-American blacks as "African-American" because they're so used to mentally translating "black" to "AA."
Neither are black though...One descends from Abraham and the other from the Khazars. Two different people.
I refuse to use the term African American. I just go with black. If a black person is born here they are just as American as I am. If we give them a prefix, every person in America should have one as well.
The Khazar hypothesis is that Ashkenazi jews are descended from Turkic people in the Khazar Khanate who converted to Judaism in the 7th or 8th century. It's largely been refuted, but let's pretend it hasn't for the purpose of this conversation.
The problem is that the Khazar hypothesis isn't even relevant to most Israelis.
The majority of Israeli Jews are not Ashkenazi. 61% of Israelis are from within the mizrahi/maghrabi/sephardic groups.
And even the Khazar hypothesis relies on a core of diaspora'd "Israelites" entering the kingdom prior to the conversion.
Neither are black though...
And only about half of all Israelis even have Ashkeanzi blood, if Ashkenazi are Khezars. What about the Sephardi and Mizrahi? They're certainly not Khezars.
What's even worse is when people equate all so called blacks worth Africans. In their minds everyone with melanin are the same people from the same place.
Where else did black people originate from? It was Africa wasn't it?
That's what I was taught. If you have any knowledge on the subject I'd gladly listen.
Israelites refers to descendants of Abraham. Abraham came from Ur in Babylon (modern Iraq). Brown is vague and can refer to people all over from the Americas, to the Middle East, to Polynesia. But Babylonians weren't black, and neither were/are Israelites.Those are Spaniards, Persians, and Babylonians...according to wiki.
And Israelites are so called black/brown.
I'm pretty sure that we are debating it now, so it clearly can.I suppose that can all be debated but what can't be debated is that they are not the people of the book.
You're conflating location post-diaspora with heritage.Those are Spaniards, Persians, and Babylonians...according to wiki.
And Israelites are so called black/brown.
Israelites refers to descendants of Abraham. Abraham came from Ur in Babylon (modern Iraq). Brown is vague and can refer to people all over from the Americas, to the Middle East, to Polynesia. But Babylonians weren't black, and neither were/are Israelites.
Speaking of dudes who had their nuts cut off as children to maintain a high vocal range.
Did I give you a cookie yet?All I know is if you stare at one of @N13 ‘s fortune cookies for 5 minutes before looking at it, they turn into lizards.
I'm pretty sure that we are debating it now, so it clearly can.
Anyways, Mizrahi-Israelis include communities that have been in the geographic region of Israel since the kingdom of Israel.