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1. Cain
2. Nog
3. DC
4. JDS
5. Stipe
6. Cro Cop
7. Barnett
8. Sylvia
9. Mir
10. Arlovski
EDIT: Same top 4 as @Jack V Savage
Why is Barnett so low?
1. Cain
2. Nog
3. DC
4. JDS
5. Stipe
6. Cro Cop
7. Barnett
8. Sylvia
9. Mir
10. Arlovski
EDIT: Same top 4 as @Jack V Savage
Why is Barnett so low?
Because his flabby torso looks like what I expect Rush Limbaugh's to look like.
Am I crazy or did you have him lower earlier?
Again, look up "subjective."
I'm well aware of what it means, Jackie. You apparently believe your subjective opinion on which MMA fighter is best, is an objective fact, which is where the disconnect is.
It is also a sign of narcissism and general insanity.
You didn't look it up.
Rank these HW's on an All time list:
Cain
Nog
Stipe
DC
Mir
Barnett
Cro Cop
JDS
Sylvia
Arlovski
Enlighten me, big boy.
"Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions"
So where am I going wrong with my usage here, Jackie? You do realize that it is merely your opinion that Frank Mir is not as high as some rank him, and not a fact, right? You do know that you can't actually disprove such a thing, correct?
Depends how you define "best," but there is broad agreement on the answer to that. No one thinks you mean "best-looking" or "most entertaining." The matter being discussed is not, therefore, subjective. We're not talking about the impact he has on you as a person.
Quit babbling.
Your opinion on Frank Mir's status as an MMA fighter is subjective.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subjective
To illustrate where you're going wrong, look at this:
How many marbles in the jar? I don't know, you don't know, but the answer is not in any way subjective.
Yes, because there is an exact number of marbles in the jar. There is a definite answer to the question.
This is not the case when discussing fighters on an GOAT list. There is no definite answer.
I feel like I'm talking to a five year old.
How is Cain a better HW than DC or Nog?
He's 13-2 and 5 of those fights were JDS or Bigfoot Silva.
DC
Stipe
Nog
Cain
CroCop
Barnett
Sylvia
AA
Mir
Can't imagine Cain's being higher than DC's after beating Stipe, who would've been Cain's biggest win.Gotta double check, but I believe Cain has a better peak Elo score than Nog, and better at HW than DC. His in-fight stats are more impressive than either, but qualitative assessments by me and others are doing some work in the rating. That's one reason I think reasonable people can disagree on those (I don't think putting Mir or Sylvia second on that list--much less one that includes Fedor and Werdum, among others--is defensible, though).
Can't imagine Cain's being higher than DC's after beating Stipe, who would've been Cain's biggest win.
Maybe DC should spam W's against Bigfoot and Lewis