War Machine and how he could have prevented getting a life sentence.

Lot's of people who seem to condone or minimize what he did in this thread. Shameful.
 
CerebralKnievel said:
You know nothing of the law.

You suggest that he should have accepted a plea bargain while acting up the remorseful role, then state that the jury would have "bought that."

There are no jurors involved in a plea deal, nimwit.
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The resident 'know it all' is here guys
Don't worry, he's got this
 
This was domestic violence and attempted rape.

He should have gotten maybe 4 years max not life in prison SMH
 
itheuser said:
Because if you're not going immediately kill everyone you house, then you automatically have to take responsibility for housing them.

Also, there are human rights issues at play, coupled with the reality that if you house a bunch of loose cannons together without anything to do, and neglect them, then you'll have an even bigger monster to deal with in prison, and when they get out.

WarMachine definitely suffered in sentencing because he didn't show remorse, and because of his attitude during the trial. He refused a plea bargain, and when you do that, you're likely to get nailed hard as a consequence. Otherwise, plea bargains lose some of their leverage.

Let's not forget the other incidences with WarMachine. He attacked another man in a parking lot, and also attacked people at a porn party. Those things mattered.
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Oh for sure, and I agree that War Machine brought it on himself, but it still seems cloudy that sentencing comes down to what one person thinks essentially and not on how well the prisoner responds to rehabilitation. Seems silly that a guy can be having his worst day, flash the judge a scowl, feel unrepentant at the time and be thrown away forever.

TS is right tho, his lawyer did an awful job or War Machine pulled a Jones and just went around him ("No I did not read the USADA pamphlet").

Maybe it is Darwinism at work, but still, it feels deeply off that mass murderers in countries like Iceland get 10 years while other guys get life for beating someone up and leaving no life damage.

This all goes back to what Bernie Sanders criticized Team Billary of, how they aided in turning the prison system in to a for profit private enterprise, where the goal was to lock up as many people as possible, so these private interest groups could receive tax payer cheddar - plus, when it is with criminals, no really cares at that point anyways, so they get away with robbery. And I'm not saying ten years for a mowing down a school full of kids with an AK47 is right, but there has to be a median or a meeting point.
 
filthynumber1 said:
nature of the beast. I mean, look whats in there, it's not surprising
rehabilitation does not exist
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Of course it does. Not everyone in prison is a violent psychopath. There's varying degrees of behavior. Some is pathological, and some is from childhood abuse, or other environmental factors.

If you have any intention of releasing a criminal back onto the streets, you better make damn sure you have done something to address the behavior, and at the very least, not make it worse.

People are animals. They're not supernatural creatures with the will of the Gods. You better get to know, and understand them if you plan to keep them around.
 
War Machine was his own worst enemy... beginning with his name change. He did have the opportunity to be a success but repeatedly could not control his rage. He is now professing he has found religion and is 'happy' with his sentence.... which I highly doubt. There will be further chapters to this story likely with more violence by WM... the prisons are not places to heal but are rather places filled with harsh realities and lots of unhappy people.

really tragic case
 
itheuser said:
Of course it does. Not everyone in prison is a violent psychopath. There's varying degrees of behavior. Some is pathological, and some is from childhood abuse, or other environmental factors.

If you have any intention of releasing a criminal back onto the streets, you better make damn sure you have done something to address the behavior, and at the very least, not make it worse.

People are animals. They're not supernatural creatures with the will of the Gods. You better get to know, and understand them if you plan to keep them around.
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ok. I'll admit it may exist but on a very low percentage. the vast majority of them come out just as fucked or even more so than when they went in
 
The thing TS is that War machine is a psychotic piece of shit who probably enjoyed beating Christy mack to the point her adult career was pretty much done and it's hard for a guy like that to show a hint of remorse to get a light sentence. Hell, i doubt War machine is smart enough to do that.
 
Ginn said:
This was domestic violence and attempted rape.

He should have gotten maybe 4 years max not life in prison SMH
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He held, and tortured her over a period of hours.

When someone does what he does, and doesn't show remorse, you can't trust that they'll never do it again. Four years isn't going to change much. There was also the real possibility of him coming back for her again; hence the no remorse factor.

Also, I don't know what was allowed as evidence, but WarMachine has a left trail of psychopathic behavior that stretched back long before this incident.

He literally is the definition of an anti-social psychopath. Either he was born with his wiring crossed, or i got crossed along the way, but it was clear from his behavior for some time that he was destined fro prison

Let's not forget the time he said that he was eventually going to have to move out of the country because going to prison was inevitable for him in America.
 
filthynumber1 said:
ok. I'll admit it may exist but on a very low percentage. the vast majority of them come out just as fucked or even more so than when they went in
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Well, America is not know for going full bore with the rehabilitation mentality. It varies from state to state, and some states couldn't care less about what they release back onto the streets. They don't want to spend the money either, and well, you get what you pay for.
 
Ginn said:
This was domestic violence and attempted rape.

He should have gotten maybe 4 years max not life in prison SMH
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the court documents are public. feel free to read over what happened and see if it is just domestic violence and attempted rape...
 
cooks1 said:
Yep. Remember this one:
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Cain just murdered him.
 
trident said:
C'mon man. Pro fighters have spent years getting used to that abuse and they fight in a weight class. She makes her money on a pillow; she's not built for this.
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Well her profession is pretty physical as well
 
itheuser said:
Well, America is not know for going full bore with the rehabilitation mentality. It varies from state to state, and some states couldn't care less about what they release back onto the streets. They don't want to spend the money either, and well, you get what you pay for.
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at least in America you pay for your crimes with time, in Canada its a joke.
For example a native women in my city drunk drove killed a family of 4. she was wasted
3 times legal limit.

got 10 years, served 3 months and was released to a healing lodge to smoke up every day.

in America she'd prolly get 4 life terms!

to top it all off the government is going after the bars that served her!??
what a mess
 
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