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Discussion in 'The War Room' started by VivaRevolution, May 18, 2017.
That you can't offer a narrative that doesn't include conspiracy.
Within months they were already hijacked, assuming they were ever """"moderate"""" in the first place. Don't you think that a truly secular, democratic, movement would take more than a few months to be hijacked by terrorists?
Russia didn't invade Ukraine, part of it with a strong Russian population seceded and this all happened because of a US backed violent coup using ultra-nationalists (yes the kind who wave swastika's around)
If it wasn't for this coup, none of this would have to have happened. You gave Russia little choice because they're in a situation where they are surrounded by NATO who continue to expand.
It's all about the oil pipeline bro. Syria is trying to keep their interests Russia is helping (obviously for monitory reasons) America literally has no reason to be there
All governments have to feed bullshit when waging war. Even Russia said it was about fighting ISIS when it was really about keeping influence in the ME and keeping access to a warm water port.
"I don't understand the situation in Syria, therefore conspiracy."
Considering their civil war has been going on for over 6 years now I don't blame those of you who either don't care enough or have the time to actually follow the situation but please, spare the rest of us who do from these stupid comments.
Half true. The other half is that russia has been meddling in the Ukraine since the USSR starved a few million Ukranians, and before that as well.
Russia does have a need for buffer nations to deter NATO aggression, but they have zero moral high ground here, as they engage in the same global game of Risk.
So your still pretending the rebels aren't Al-Qaeda then?
And this requires a media conspiracy of propaganda.
It's a combination of US base expansions, profit, deals, government power etc. Many nations and private investors are playing their hands in this poker game called war. Yeah, I understand its complete bullshit that the western media isn't exposing it for what it is. I guess you can class it as a conspiracy.
You cannot off a narrative including a conspiracy. I just asked for it. YOU MADE a thread saying this is proof of a conspiracy.....but have nothing.
Now, this would be the time to use Occam's razor (sp?)
I never claimed I would offer a specific conspiracy.
That would be a strawman, that you could easily knock down.
Kind of like how easy it is for me to knock down the BS explanations offered for why we are in Syria.
No, I'm not worried about then at all. I'm worried about all the people in the middle and worried that a man like Asad can kill who he wants with no repercussions. Those are the worries that I described, the worries of people who don't see conspiracy everywhere.
Well, I might find this idea credible if we didn't blow up a hospital in Syria, and call it collateral damage.
If you think what happens in Syria does not matter at all you are simply ignorant in the way this world works.
That is one of the other reasons I spoke about, but only one of them. Don't think that you can boil this down to one single thing.
I think the tactics used by terrorist groups are uniquely brutal and specifically designed to quickly develop polarization between demographics.
Complicated like hybrid warfare?
Because that is what this is.
AKA Al-Qeada, and Al-Nusra are "unconventional forces". AKA subcontracted American terrorists.
War, even if waged for the greater good is messy.
No, complicated as in why we are their and why we should care.