Want proof of Conspiracy? Explain Syria to me

Let's talk about Syria for a second.

What are we doing in Syria?

We were supporting Syrian "rebels" at first......until we found out that rebel, means Al-Qaeda, and Al-Nusra. Strangely enough, that actually didn't stop us from arming them.

So the rebels(terrorists) got their shit pushed in, by Russian and Iranian(Also terrorists, but different team) forces.

Now, it starts to come out that we have built 3 military bases in Syria. We have over 1,000 troops in Syria.

We sit here and cry crocodile tears over the Russia invading the Ukraine in violation of International law, when the US now has 2 illegal invasions of sovereign nations in the last 15 years.

So you want proof of a conspiracy?

Here it is.

We have been given no rational that stands any scrutiny for what the fuck we are doing in Syria.

We have illegally invaded a sovereign nation, and no one in the MSM will even acknowledge this FACT.

Syria, is a conspiracy in plain site for everyone to see. It is not in any plebes interests to threaten WWIII over ?????? American interests in Syria.

WWIII, is being threatened over oligarch interests. You, and I, have zero interests in Syria, only international corporations have interests in Syrian resources.

Our government is occupied. Our media is a propaganda outfit.

Disucss.................


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Wikileaks Publishes Documents Showing How Google Helped Al-Qaeda in Syria
Al Masdar | May 18, 2017
Google has helped Al-Qaeda and other Salafist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood gain new members at the dawn of the Syrian conflict, secret documents and e-mails published by Wikileaks show.

The then director of Google Ideas, Jared Cohen coordinated actions to support the groups often dubbed as rebels with then U.S. Foreign Minister Hillary Clinton and Deputy U.S. State Secretary William Burns. Google employed it’s expertise in the IT sector to help the conflict in Syria gain traction.

In July 2012 Google provided a software tool, with which defections in Syria were to be tracked and the thereby gained informations spread in Syria with the help of Al-Jazeera. According to the plotting of U.S. officials and Google, this should encourage more people to take up arms and join the ranks of the rebels. Then Director of Policy Planning for Obama, Jake Sullivan let Hillary Clinton, for which he served as an advisor in the last presidential election, know that, “this is a pretty cool idea.”

https://www.newsbud.com/2017/05/18/...-showing-how-google-helped-al-qaeda-in-syria/

 

"Moderate rebels" in Syria are about as real as "true socialism"

 

Good thing I am a market socialist.

 

Literally every military action the US has taken since WWII has been in the interest of oligarchs. Welcome to the party pal.

 

Today, we are all conspiratards.

United we stand.

 

So we are being lied to.

Welcome to team conspiratard.

 

We are hypocritical about invading other countries.

There you go. Easy explanation, no weird conspiracy theories needed.

 

So does the populace support this hypocrisy?

If we do, explain why, without painting the picture of conspiracy.

If we don't, then explain why a government, beholden to the people, doesn't give a shit what we think, without painting the picture of a conspiracy.

 

Assad doesn't have much issue with those bases as the Americans have largely been targeting Isis, the same thorn in assads side. He'd much rather the Americans beat up the rebels than his government. Hell, with the Russians and the rest of the anti Isis brigade's help he's nearly completely back in control. Thank you Uncle Sam.

 

Yes, because the american people are also generally massive hypocrites about invading foreign countries.

Still, no conspiracy needed.

 

Oh, so the problem is that the American people are pieces of shit.

Gotcha.

We will add that to the list of explanations that don't stand up to scrutiny.

 

I don't think that's entirely accurate. I think in 2010 there were actually moderates on the streets.

At one point, at the birth of the Arab Spring, there was a glimmering light in all of the Arab world.

An actual awakening. A desire to uplift.

But we faltered. We balked at this opportunity.

We let the violence fester. We let the objective of a strategy of terrorism take hold in these uprisings, extreme polarization.

We squandered the opportunity because the GOP didn't want the half-black President achieve anything.

 

You really dont think that people just accept aggression for american actions and condemn other countries doing the exact same things? We do. Its just an extension of the concept of tribalism. Our side is just and moral, attacking countries to defend freedom and democracy around the world. Other countries are evil and trying to bully weaker powers and expand their evil freedom hating ideas.

 

All people will do this to some extent, and I don't think it's even really a bad thing necessarily.

But, at the same time, the propoganda mill plays this up and applies a thick layor of BS over top of any geo-political actions.

The candy coating that tastes great.

 

I dont even think its a propaganda thing. News is there for ratings, so they tell people what going on in a way that confirms their biases. Same reason Fox does conservative news and NBC does liberal news. They are presenting the same stories, but in a way that is comfortable for their viewers. It just so happens that people will support their side when military action is taken, so all american news kinda shows the same stuff when we go to war.

 

No conspiracy, just the Iron Triangle doing its thing, which is war for fun and profit. Mostly profit.
Same old shit.

 

To some extent that has to be true, but the pen is mightier than the sword, as they say. To think that so many billions (trillions?) are spent on military and related expenditures, and so much is at stake, and that the pen is left resting in its quill, I don't think is realistic.

 

True. That being said, on the Islamic side of things, Syria is home base for their end of times theology. 3/4 of the world needs to be at war with them there so the Mahdi can return with Jesus (yup that Jesus) by his side and together with the risin martyrs they will conquer the world in the name of Allah.


If you don't know, read up on the Mahdi, and Islamic end of times theology. Brings the LULS and suddenly everything Terrorists do makes complete sense.