WADA needs to appeal to the court of arbitration for sport

Couldn't agree more.

What are your thoughts on T levels being low for other fighters then? Like DC, Weidman etc. do they also make you raise an eyebrow?

DC’s test levels were nearly 25 times higher than Jones’ levels for UFC 182.

Jones averages 2.43ng/ml while DC averaged 60ng/ml. The average for a male according to Victor Conte is 61.3 ng/ml. If that is true than Daniel is right where he’s supposed to be.
 
Didn't Cormier also have ridiculously low T/E ratio in their first fight?

Couldn't agree more.

What are your thoughts on T levels being low for other fighters then? Like DC, Weidman etc. do they also make you raise an eyebrow?

yes. to say they raise eyebrows is a bit of an understatement. none of them really have a plausible explanation for it, but the T/E ratio alone isn't conclusive evidence, so i'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt. it's only fair.

however, when the motherfucker is caught with masking agents on top of the bullshit T/E ratio, the benefit of the doubt is gone. because then we know, we know for a fact that he's a cheat.
 
This whole jones thing is obviously bs.

We had a situation in Australia recently where ASADA tried to prosecute an entire team that were injected with peds. The investigation came up short but then the world anti doping agency came in over the top at CAS and banned every player for 12 months.

theres a better more recent example.

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/boxing/...ilty-of-doping-banned-for-four-years-16135978

Back in 2016 EFC (random south african mma organisation) champ Demarte Pena tested positive for testosterone and anabolic use in testing conducted at an event by SAIDS (South African Institute for Drug Free Sport), a WADA signatory.

It went to hearing and at arbitration the panel found in favor of Pena and cleared him of all charges. The panel determined that his supplements had been contaminated, and he was at no fault at all. But it wasnt that simple. SAIDS tested a number of supplements from the athlete. Two of the supplement containers had already been opened, and one of them was still sealed.

The two opened ones were contaminated with anabolic steroids, although, not in quantities that would have resulted in his positive test. the sealed container, interestingly was not contaminated in any way.

It was fairly obvious that he had self contaminated the two opened ones to try and get off.

SAIDS did a shit job of arguing their case, the panel was incompetant, and between them it was decided that Pena was not at fault.

WADA appealed to the court of arbitration for sport.

CAS found in WADA's favour and Pena has now been suspended for 4 years.



UFC isn't under WADA jurisdiction IIRC

The same could be said for Pena case. What jurisdiction do WADA have over some random South African MMA organisation? the answer is none. But they do have jurisdiction over South African Anti Doping.

This is fairly similar to the JJ case, in regard to the reasoning for the short suspension (unintentional, small doze). Add to that that JJ isn't a first-time offender.

but thats not why Jones punishment was reduced. the 30 month reduction was for "substantial assistance". Only 3 months was taken off for degree of fault.
 
Dimspace mentioned something in the thread about that Italian chick suspended for 26 years that UFC aren't signatories to WADA code or something like that and aren't obligated to honor their suspensions
I don't know, That guy actually is a little dim TBH. As far as I know, USADA is sanctioned by WADA and follows it's directives and practices within the US. UFC may not have to follow suspensions but it makes no sense not to. If you are paying USADA for anti-doping credibility you would quickly lose it by not following the guidelines.
 
I think it would be a lot easier if we just go back to the good Old IQ test.
 
Snowflakes in here whining up a storm, pretending to care about the 'integrity' of the sport. Truth is you wanted Jones gone for 2-4 years and that is not happening. So, you're pissed. Fucking get over it, already.
 
Or maybe you moral high rollers should just get over it and accept the sport and all sports are dirty and just enjoy them as is.
 
WADA is the brainchild and engine of some of the most corrupt and political people ever to be involved in sport.

Are the Olympics corrupt?

Anything that follows WADA is corrupt to core. <Goldie11>
I hope you are a paid shill, or you are a retard. No remotely sane person would say such a thing if they were not getting paid.

There's no objective observer who would call WADA or the Court of Arbitration for Sport corrupt. The IOC operates under the CAS, which is an independent organization.
 
I hope you are a paid shill, or you are a retard. No remotely sane person would say such a thing if they were not getting paid.

There's no objective observer who would call WADA or the Court of Arbitration for Sport corrupt. The IOC operates under the CAS, which is an independent organization.

Are you dense? WADA is straight up a tool of NATO foreign policy
 
UFC needs to level the playing field, get rid of USADA.

Let’s go back to IVs, day of fight urine tests and jacked white boys.
 
Or maybe you moral high rollers should just get over it and accept the sport and all sports are dirty and just enjoy them as is.
Nope. SMD.
 
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